Reasonable concern. I've expanded that acronym and unlinked another sentence.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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The article says "A Speech Balloon or other form of text-in-the-image won't save you here—if there's nothing in the visuals, it's JAFAAC."
I think this should be deleted. "Nothing in the visuals" is a problem, but it's a different problem. JAFAAC is when you wouldn't understand the image without being familiar with the work, not when there is no information in the visuals.
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^Take it to Edit Requests For Locked Pages
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I don't want to request it. I want to discuss it.
That is for uncontroversial changes I think.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
^I'd say it should be merged into the previous bullet.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
If it's wrong, why? And that bullet should maybe be deleted also.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Stat. It doesn't matter if it's Just A Face And A Caption or Just A Face And A Speechbubble.
Also, discussion pages don't get much traffic. Bringing up the edit in the edit requests thread is still your best chance.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
It does matter. That's a different problem. The article isn't about that problem. Oh I see, "it may be JAFAAC without a caption, just like it may be JAFAAC without a face." Yes, true.
It is true that captions may be disguised as something else (like speech bubbles), and also that "something can be JAFAAC without having a caption", but that isn't definitive.
Noted about traffic, will maybe propose that change when the IP thread
is done.
'M not Crazy, just Raven
Does anybody else find it ironic (or maybe not, can't remember) that, on a page about how images that make no sense without prior knowledge of some sort are bad, the image makes no sense without prior knowledge? (which is a delightfully meta way to illustrate the trope, but still makes no sense without a certain prior knowledge)
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Maybe, but I styill don't see why we can't just reveal which show the image is from. Don't Explain the Joke?
"But... nobody told me I needed a signature!"
I'd classify that less as "ironic" and more as "Self-Demonstrating Article."
The same guy as all those other Andrusis. Except that one.
Even if you read the caption, it still takes a bit of thinking to see how it's relevant unless you know that there are people on TV Tropes who expect you to know who Haruhi Suzumiya is and why she fits certain tropes, who put her picture up as a trope image and expect people to immediately recognize why she's an example of the trope.
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Personally, I would think that Ms. Summers and just about anypony from the 4th generation would work just as well. It's just too bad we can't employ an image randomizer script here...
Just curious: to what extent was this trope common before this page was created?
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It was pretty common, but it was also one of my favorite parts about the site. Wanting to understand the image choice led to many enjoyable wiki walks. But then the editors here started trying to emulate That Other Wiki, making the images much less interesting and the site much less fun.
"But then the editors here started trying to emulate That Other Wiki, making the images much less interesting and the site much less fun."
So... a contextless face is fun and interesting?
(Also, how the hell is that related to Wikipedia?)
Actually a girl.
[[VideoGame/PuyoPuyo Cosine!]]
Do we need a sister trope for "a picture of the Trope Namer doesn't automatically illustrate the trope"? Because, say, the King of Town character doesn't illustrate the King Of Town trope, but he was the first choice for the image just because he named it. Same with The Frizzle and a bunch of other examples I can't remember because I deleted them.
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Well, This Index Is Not an Example covers the "the Trope Namer doesn't fit the trope" part, but not the "...so don't use it for the trope image" part. Try Lost And Found?
Some Guy
Anyone have an opinion about putting up an addendum to the description? This phrase keeps being used as shorthand for "makes no sense in relation to the trope without context", and people get confused because the description is only about names.
Alternately, we could make a sister/parent trope about images not making sense without context.
See you in the discussion pages.
"If you come across this type of pic, you should definitely start an IP thread to replace it."
You should definitely expand initialisms. Not everyone knows that IP means Image Pickin', rather than Intellectual Property or Internet Protocol or whatever.
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