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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since Music/{{Reputation}}. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the fanbase's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the serious allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her. [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but still think the song isn't very good]].
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the fanbase's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the serious allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her. [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but still think the song isn't very good]].
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** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the fanbase's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but still think the song isn't very good]].
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but still think the song isn't very good]].
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** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the fanbase's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, Or a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the serious allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her. \n*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but still think the song isn't very good]].
** "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since Music/{{Reputation}}. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] or are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the Swiftie's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the Swiftie's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since Music/{{Reputation}}. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] or are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing theSwiftie's fanbase's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song think the song isn't very good]].
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still think the song isn't very good]].
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in think the drafts]].song isn't very good]].
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** [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
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** [TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
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** [TakeAThirdOption [[TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
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** "ThanK you aIMee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
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** "ThanK you aIMee", "Thank You Aimee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since ''Music/{{Reputation}}'. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] or are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since ''Music/{{Reputation}}'.Music/{{Reputation}}. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] or are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
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* BrokenBase: The most polarising of her albums since ''Music/{{Reputation}}'. Are the lyrics overwritten and pretentious, or beautiful and insightful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or,]] or are the lyrics intentionally pretentious to mirror the theme of 'tortured poetry'?
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the Swiftie's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "ThanK you aIMee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
** [TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
** "But Daddy I Love Him", a song that seems to be referencing the Swiftie's reaction to her dating The 1975 frontman Matty Healy. Was this a good reaction to the controversy? Was her calling a portion of her fanbase "judgemental creeps" justified? An important reminder to more parasocial fans that they don't really know each other and don't have a right to intrude on her private life? Or, a mean-spirited and petulant lyric that doesn't really address the allegations of racism against Matty Healy?
** "ThanK you aIMee", a diss track against Kim Kardashian. Many people feel that after eight years, Taylor shouldn't be rehashing this feud and it's time to forgive, or at least, move on. They also feel it's a step too far to mention Kim's children in the song. Others feel that Taylor owes Kim - who participated in the making of a music video Taylor has described as "revenge porn" - absolutely nothing and has every right to dislike her.
** [TakeAThirdOption And some agree that Taylor has every right to be angry at Kim, but this song still should have stayed in the drafts]].
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* {{Narm}}: A major criticism of the album is that the lyrics are overly long and overwritten, causing quite a few lines and phrases to receive widespread derision due to the awkwardness of the content and not fitting in the music melody:
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* {{Narm}}: A major criticism of the album is that the lyrics are overly long and overwritten, causing quite a few lines and phrases to receive widespread derision due to the awkwardness of the content and not fitting in the music melody:content:
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** Another major criticism is the sheer length of the album in its entirety, clocking in as over 2 hours, all while containing repetitive melodies and meandering lyrical content. Notably, nearly half of the songs (ie a full album's worth) appear to be based off of a single short-lived relationship and mostly cover the same ground. Many of the other songs (ie ''another'' full album) repeat content about Swift's relationship with the media, her fans, and Kanye West/the Kardashians that she's been singing about for over a decade, leading many to wonder why she bothered with such a long album if she lacked much new to say.
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** Another major criticism is the sheer length of the album in its entirety, clocking in as over 2 hours, all while containing repetitive melodies and meandering lyrical content. Notably, nearly half of the songs (ie (i.e. a full album's worth) appear to be based off of on a single short-lived relationship and mostly cover the same ground. Many of the other songs (ie (i.e. ''another'' full album) repeat content about Swift's relationship with the media, her fans, and Kanye West/the Kardashians that she's been singing about for over a decade, leading many to wonder why she bothered with such a long album if she lacked much new to say.
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** "The Tortured Poets Department": The line "A tattoo golden retriever" has received widespread mockery due to bizarre image choice, coupled with unflattering pictures of Matty Healy, someone who is widely agreed to inspire the song.
** "So High School": "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle / Brand new, full-throttle / Touch me while your bros play ''Grand Theft Auto''" has been widely derided for sounding pretentious and awkward.
** "I Hate It Here": "I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists" is widely derided for being tone deaf and seeming like a hamfisted attempt to defend herself from fan outrage over Matty Healy's (the main inspiration of the album) racist controversies.
** "So High School": "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle / Brand new, full-throttle / Touch me while your bros play ''Grand Theft Auto''" has been widely derided for sounding pretentious and awkward.
** "I Hate It Here": "I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists" is widely derided for being tone deaf and seeming like a hamfisted attempt to defend herself from fan outrage over Matty Healy's (the main inspiration of the album) racist controversies.
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** "The Tortured Poets Department": The line "A tattoo tattooed golden retriever" has received widespread mockery due to the bizarre image choice, choice of imagery, coupled with unflattering pictures of Matty Healy, someone who is widely agreed to inspire the song.
** "So High School": "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle / Brand new, full-throttle / Touch me while your bros play ''Grand Theft Auto''" has been widely derided for sounding pretentious andawkward.
awkward. [[note]]Supporters of the song believe that the sophomoric lyrics are intentional, to evoke a less accomplished songwriter, or someone so in love they're reduced to the mindset and vocabulary of a high school student, with all the accompanying childish pretensions and awkwardness.[[/note]]
** "I Hate It Here": "I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists" is widely derided for beingtone deaf tone-deaf and seeming like a hamfisted ham-fisted attempt to defend herself from fan outrage over Matty Healy's (the main inspiration of the album) racist controversies. [[note]]Supporters of the line point to it in context: the line is part of a point that "Nostalgia is a mind's trick" and that the version of the past the narrator used to want to go to isn't perfectly peachy either.[[/note]]
** "So High School": "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle / Brand new, full-throttle / Touch me while your bros play ''Grand Theft Auto''" has been widely derided for sounding pretentious and
** "I Hate It Here": "I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists" is widely derided for being
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** "Robin" joins "Ronan" as the only other song in Swift's discography where the track title (or a similar sounding phrase) is not mentioned at all in the lyrics.
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** "Robin" joins "Ronan" as the only other song in Swift's discography where the track title (or a similar sounding similar-sounding phrase) is not mentioned at all in the lyrics.
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* ItGetsBetter:
** For the main album, a lot of fans think the first four songs are meandering and repetitive, and "So Long, London" is where the album really starts to pick up momentum.
** A lot of fans think the Anthology songs are significantly stronger than the main album. Coincidentally, most of them involved Aaron Dessner as producer rather than Jack Antonoff.
** For the main album, a lot of fans think the first four songs are meandering and repetitive, and "So Long, London" is where the album really starts to pick up momentum.
** A lot of fans think the Anthology songs are significantly stronger than the main album. Coincidentally, most of them involved Aaron Dessner as producer rather than Jack Antonoff.
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** For the main album, a lot of fans think the first four songs are meandering and repetitive, and "So Long, London" is where the album really starts to pick up momentum.
** A lot of fans think the Anthology songs are significantly stronger than the main album. Coincidentally, most of them involved Aaron Dessner as producer rather than Jack Antonoff.
** For the main album, a lot of fans think the first four songs are meandering and repetitive, and "So Long, London" is where the album really starts to pick up momentum.
** A lot of fans think the Anthology songs are significantly stronger than the main album. Coincidentally, most of them involved Aaron Dessner as producer rather than Jack Antonoff.
