Complete Monster Cleanup

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Edited by BriarBranwen on Mar 31st 2024 at 9:57:58 AM

YMMV.Marvel Zombies has this entry:

• Complete Monster: Henry "Hank" Pym, aka Giant Man from Earth-2149, is the Greater-Scope Villain of the entire metaseries and a former superhero who got much worse during the Hunger Virus outbreak. After being infected, Pym kidnaps Black Panther to use him as a personal food supply and confesses to him that even if he would become human once again, he would still eat human flesh. When Wasp finds out about this and is angry with him, he bites her head off without hesitation. After Magneto destroys a portal to other dimensions, Pym, along with the other zombies, devours him in a rage. When the Silver Surfer arrives on Earth, Pym devours him and proudly reveals this to the arriving Galactus, angering him. Having devoured Galactus, he, along with several other zombies, uses the received cosmic power to kill all other zombies on the planet, seize Galactus's ship and travel on it across the universe. Forty years later, having successfully devoured all life in the universe, they return to Earth to repair the destroyed portal in order to devour sapient beings from other universes. Teletransported to Earth-91126, Pym devours Uatu, studies his technologies, and successfully turns the planet's population into zombies. Later, he betrays The Sentry and tries to use his powers to activate the portal. Selfish, merciless, and sadistic, Pym never tried to redeem himself, although he had such an opportunity, and would destroy his allies when they outlived their usefulness to make the multiverse his personal "All-you-can-eat-buffet".

While I do agree that Pym counts, Greater-Scope Villain is not exactly a correct trope to describe him. Greater-Scope Villain is labeled in Laconic section as a greater evil that is not involved directly in the story. Perhaps he could be called "the true antagonist of the entire metaseries" or have the Greater-Scope Villain section omitted altogether?

"the true mastermind behind..." work?

Also on Choujin X I added The Generalissimo to Queem's page per the conversation we had earlier and it was deleted and changed to The Caligula on the basis of us not being told is nation is a third-world country. I'm not quite sure The Caligula works either since that trope emphasizes incompetence and I guess there's the argument he drove his nation to ruin through war but so far it's also been implied he was a competent just brutal commander... might wanna play it safe and just pothole his name to Evil Overlord?

That'll work for Queem.

If the laconic is accurate, we may need to do a thorough examination of the use.

Honestly, I'm more concerned about this:

• Giant Man was completely horrified and guilt ridden when his hunger had disappeared and remembered the quadrillions of people that he and his group consumed while watching the Hulk kill and eat Reynolds.

Edited by ACW on Mar 31st 2024 at 10:54:56 AM

Where did you find that?

It was from Marvel Zombies 2, a sequel to the first series.

Unfortunately, this was before Pym was transported to an alternate Earth, where he went back to rampant infection and devastation without issues, and where his goals for world buffet really revealed themselves. Though correct me if I'm wrong.

Tripp: It was at the work page.

Ah, fair enough. Though I'm still concerned about GSV in general now.

Would Big Bad work here?

Oh, and Papyru, the sandbox one works because I changed the link there.

Edited by ACW on Mar 31st 2024 at 1:50:46 PM

While I'm cleaning up a couple old entries I've got Dr. Moreau who I kinda unfairly attributed the Beast-Men's rampage on him like it was intentional. He still counts but since that was a feat of apathy I'm gonna cut the last sentence and correct earlier grammar to leave us with:

• The Island of Doctor Moreau: Dr. Moreau himself is an unfettered vivisector determined to create humans using animals. After fleeing Britain as a pariah for flaying a dog which escaped his lab, Moreau took up residence on a remote island, taking more creatures to continue his experiments with. Spending the years torturously crafting over 120 animals into pain-stricken sapient beings, Moreau has them taught the "Law" to keep them under control and to worship him as a god. With his House of Pain, he tortures any who disobey his Law to the point protagonist Edward Prendick shoots a leopard man Moreau meant to punish dead to save him from the agony.

• The Saint
• Mechtanium Surge Arc 2: Coredegon/Mechtavius Destroyer is a rogue Mechtogan obsessed with wiping out all the Bakugan so he can't be summoned to do battle. Introduced by destroying his progenitor Fury, Coredegon and his entourage then travel to Bakugan City on Earth to wipe out all the Bakugan living there, along with their human partners. Defeated, Coredegon abducts the human Gunz Lazar and copies his appearance to become Wiseman, a guise he uses to become empowered under the pretence of attacking humans to force them to give up their Bakugan. He then uses Gunz's likeness to infiltrate the Brawlers' HQ to steal a Bakumeter that allows him to summon Battle Suits for the Nonets, making the Brawlers, including Gunz's partner Reptak, think their friend has betrayed them in the process. Managing to defeat the Brawlers, Coredegon offers to spare Bakugan City from destruction if the Brawlers kill their own partners. Regaining his full power, Coredegon murders the Nonet Balista for suspecting his true operation, before revealing himself to both sides by attacking them. Banishing the Brawlers to spend an eternity in the Doom Dimension, Coredegon then slaughters the Nonets for standing up to him, and in one Bad Future, murders all the Bakugan throughout the dimensions along with their partners and people living with them.
• Choujin X: "War Choujin" Queem Macman was a vile Choujin X who used his powers to launch a military coup and become President of Guelta. Starting the Great Choujin War, Queem personally advanced weaponry, and, hell-bent on conquering the world, forced his Choujin troops to painfully Raise themselves from death unendingly. Using enemy territories to hunt for sport, Queem massacred civilians and conducted religious purges, the horrors of his crimes fracturing human society, which is still healing even 70 years after his death.
• Director Yoshimitsu Horai and Eric Nishijima are secretly high-ranking members of the sinister Syndicate. Overseeing the coverup missions assigned to their assassination teams, the Director and Nishijima regularly order witnesses to Contractor activity silenced, and have their own followers killed the moment they risk exposure for the organization. Constructing the Saturn Ring to destroy Heaven's Gate—which empowers the Contractors—the two then lure a Contractor terrorist group to Tokyo to stir up chaos and justify their genocide as being for the good of humanity, and when their plan is foiled, the Director murders Nishijima to cover up the incident and escape consequences.
• Heroman: Lord Kogorr is the leader of the Skrugg race, who takes Professor Denton's peaceful attempt at first contact as an invitation to invade Earth by attacking Center City with his army. The Skrugg's advanced weaponry wipes out countless cops, soldiers, and civilians alike, while he has teenagers Will and Nick experimented on to serve as mind-controlled mutant soldiers. When Will manages to break free from the traumatic process, Kogorr kills the scientist in charge for failure, then after being defeated by Joey and Heroman, Kogorr sets his base to explode with his own troops still inside. Upon being revived by his followers much later, Kogorr consumes them all to empower himself, seemingly slays Heroman, and begins drilling into Earth's core to destroy the planet, taunting Joey with a fate he has apparently inflicted upon many worlds before.
• The Dare: Ellen Rawes was a witch in the 17th century who made a pact with Nyarlathotep in exchange for immortality, leaving her with a craving for human flesh. Developing a taste for children, Ellen escaped the Salem witch trials and eventually resurfaced in 1866 under the alias Evelynn Barnaker, becoming the benefactor of an orphanage so she could devour children who wouldn't be missed. Mutating into a bloated, monstrous hag, Evelynn faked her own death in 1885 and had her monstrous half-human half-vermin offspring excavate a chamber under her house; preying on the children and pets of families who moved into her old house and the surrounding neighbourhood; and even devouring her own offspring. When local bully Roger Simmons breaks into her home, Evelynn kills him and uses his puppeteered corpse to lure a fresh batch of young victims—the Investigators—into her abode, intending to sacrifice them to Nyarlathotep to renew her twisted immortality.
• New World Cacophony (link: Nui Harime, Ryuko Matoi's monstrous half-sister, remains as horrid as her canon counterpart. Upon ending up in Mako Mankanshoku's mind, Nui proceeds to Mind Rape her for an entire decade through nightmares and night terrors, before attempting to permanently trap her into Ryuko's mind, all so that she could escape and take Ryuko, whom she became obsessed with, all for herself.
• Poppy Playtime Fan Animation Poppy Playtime AU: Remnant:
  • Harley Sawyer was the friend of Elliot Ludwig, and a scientist at Playtime Co., who's responsible for the events of the story. Harley saw Elliot's adopted daughter, Poppy, as a distraction from his work and after her death, Harley transformed Elliot into the monstrous Prototype and began the Bigger Bodies Initiative to turn human kids into toys. Harley is responsible for several innocent children, as well as Elliot's adult daughter, being tortured into toys. One of these kids, Robert, was even adopted by Harley, being fed human meat and abused daily before he's turned into Boxy Boo.
  • Eric Wilson is a sociopathic scientist working for Playtime Co. Allying with Harley Sawyer and working at the Bigger Bodies Initiative, Eric personally picks out and tortures children into becoming monstrous toys, showing a particular cruelty. When Marie Payne discovers her friend Daisy dead, Eric chases her and taunts her over her broken legs before he proceeds to drug and torture her into becoming Mommy Long Legs.
• Kim Possible Deconstruction Fic Buried Trilogy: Monkey Fist, taking the opportunity afforded by Kim being on the run, steals ten nuclear weapons, intending to auction them off in order to fund his magical research, killing the soldiers guarding them. When Ron, Shego, and Barkin destroy his ship and leave him for dead, Monkey Fist saves his own life by tapping into a wellspring of magic, then begins spreading a Hate Plague around the world, which slowly grows more potent until it causes mass violence, nearly starts a nuclear war, and risks rendering the entire human race homicidally insane. Meanwhile, Monkey Fist tortures Shego to near-death before killing nearly everyone in Global Justice HQ. When Ron and Kim face him, Monkey Fist declares his intent to become a god, before attempting to kill them.
• Dune:
  • David Lynch's 1984 adaptation:
    • Baron Vladimir Harkonnen is a grotesque, cackling beast of a man who masterminds the slaughter of House Atreides by holding the wife of Dr. Yueh hostage with no intent to ever let Yueh live. Having forced his nephew Feyd-Rautha to become his perfect heir via abuse, Harkonnen dispatches the brutal Rabban to slaughter the Fremen of Dune so he might take control of the planet before personally attempting to oversee the remaining slaughter.
    • "The Beast" Rabban is a hulking brute who serves as the Baron's powerful fist in attacking Arrakis. Leading the charge in slaughtering House Atreides, Rabban personally, torturously murders Dr. Kynes with a smile on his face. When tasked with carrying out the genocide of the Fremen, Rabban accepts the mission with relish, taking every opportunity he can to massacre the Fremen. His own troops fare no better, as Rabban repays a soldier who failed him by crushing the man's skull in a petulant rage.
  • Denis Villeneuve's two-part adaptation:
    • Baron Vladimir Harkonnen is the head of House Harkonnen, and the epitome of its rapacious, cold-blooded society. The Baron is a gluttonous, hedonistic despot who runs brutal Gladiator Games; frequently tortures and murders his young attendants for pleasure; and plots to usurp the Emperor. The Baron schemes with Emperor Shaddam IV and the Bene Gesserit to lure House Atreides to Arrakis in a supposed changing of leadership, only to then have House Atreides slaughtered. To complete the plot, the Baron cruelly manipulates Dr. Yueh into selling out House Atreides in exchange for the Baron sparing Yueh's wife horrible torture, but when Yueh completes his task, the Baron reveals his wife is long dead before personally slitting Yueh's throat. After poisoning, humiliating, and drawing out the death of Duke Leto, the Baron tries to have the man's family killed despite promising the Bene Gesserit he would spare them. The Baron then orders the systematic genocide of the Fremen people so he can have Arrakis all to himself, and when his nephew Rabban fails in this task, the Baron threatens him with death and sics the sadistic Feyd-Rautha onto the Fremen—but only after "testing" Feyd's capabilities by nearly assassinating him. Even when death approaches him, the Baron's only concern is making another attempt to crawl to power, and he ensures the galaxy will fall into war by manipulating the other Houses to betray the Emperor.
    • "Beast" Rabban Harkonnen is the swaggering, violent elder nephew of Baron Vladimir. Harboring a deep resentment for anyone who would threaten his status, Rabban leads the Harkonnen forces to massacre the Atreides households, personally killing the family and friends of Gurney Halleck and scarring him to remember his losses to Rabban. Taking numerous prisoners to die in the Harkonnen arenas, Rabban also personally beheads numerous victims himself with cold relish. Assigned to govern Arrakis, Rabban tries to enact a genocide of the Fremen and beats one of his own men to death when the latter points out the difficulty in killing the "rats". After being usurped by his brother Feyd-Rautha, Rabban attempts to flee and leave his uncle and brother to die, only pausing to try to kill Gurney himself.
• High Risk (aka Meltdown): Rabbit is the younger brother and primary henchman of the Doctor, and a willing supporter to the Doctor's various terrorist attacks for extortion. Introduced leading his men in herding a playground full of children into a bus to target a tycoon's child for ransom, Rabbit guns down a teacher to silence everyone and helps the Doctor strap a Time Bomb underneath the bus, the resulting explosion killing everyone, including hero Li Kit's family. Rabbit would later assist the Doctor's heist of Hotel Grandeur's jewelry exhibition on its opening day, spearheading a massacre of the lobby's staff before taking over the penthouse where all the guests are gathered, personally executing the hotel's unarmed security chief for being unable to unlock the display cabinets. When Li Kit interrupts the raid, Rabbit casually guns down fleeing hostages and later traps Helen in a room full of poisonous reptiles, trying to kill her in order to shut her up.
• Love Lies Bleeding: Lou Sr. puts up an act as a kindly family man, but is in truth a ruthless mobster who will discard anything he supposedly loves for his own selfish gain. Running illegal guns to and from Mexico, Lou Sr. has long murdered anyone who stood in his way, dumping their bodies in a canyon that is littered with the remains of his victims. When his daughter Lou and her lover Jackie begin meddling in his affairs, Lou Sr. manipulates a drugged-out Jackie into killing a witness before trying to murder her. Despite his seeming care for his family, Lou Sr. allows his other daughter Beth to stay trapped in a horribly abusive relationship because it's profitable; is heavily indicated to have murdered his wife when she was going to turn witness for law enforcement; and not only forced Lou to commit murder in his name, but tries to torture and kill her as well when Lou Sr. decides she is too stricken by conscience.
• Darramouss is a half-elven lich and Zharradan Marr's personal Torture Technician, tasked with orders of carrying executions which Darramouss welcomes with delight, gleefully having prisoners privately tortured in his dungeons before sending them to their deaths. After being granted control of the Yellowstone Mines, Darramouss's first course of action is to have the mine's previous keeper, Hannicus, blinded before throwing Hannicus into his torture chamber and ending the paying system of labourers, turning Yellowstone Mines into a slave camp. Regularly organizing large-scale raids for more slaves, Darramouss even dabbles in necromatic mutations, turning selected prisoners into mindless monsters which he sends to aimlessly roam the mines and devour attempted escapees.
• The Island of Doctor Moreau: Dr. Moreau himself is an unfettered vivisector determined to create humans using animals. After fleeing Britain as a pariah for flaying a dog which escaped his lab, Moreau took up residence on a remote island, taking more creatures to continue his experiments with. Spending the years torturously crafting over 120 animals into pain-stricken sapient beings, Moreau has them taught the "Law" to keep them under control and to worship him as a god. With his House of Pain, Moreau tortures any who disobey his Law, to the point protagonist Edward Prendick shoots a leopard man Moreau meant to punish dead to save him from the agony.
• Whitby Witches trilogy: Nathaniel Crozier, described as "the most evil man in the world", is High Priest of the Coven of the Black Sceptre, a polygamous cult consisting of lonely women whom he controls through dark magic and persuasion, while abusing them and treating them as nothing more than pawns. A glutton for power, Crozier learns of the Guardians of Irl, three magical talismans with which he could Take Over the World. Later, arriving in Whitby in person, Crozier uses his dark powers to bully a married couple into letting him be their lodger whilst he searches Whitby for the Guardians. To this end, Crozier makes the 12-year-old Jennet Laurenson fall in love with him so that he can use her as yet another pawn in his schemes; mentally tortures and kills the elderly Ernest Roper; and gains control of the terrifying Fish-Demon to slaughter countless Aufwaders, the tribe that guards the final Guardian. Having released the horrifying Morgawrus, Nathaniel intends to enslave it but is thwarted by Miss Boston, whom he attempts to throttle to death. After being brought Back from the Dead, Crozier attempts to make Jennet kill herself in front of him, purely to demonstrate his power, while planning to release Morgawrus again to pursue his goal of world conquest.
• Frank Herbert's Dune & Children of Dune: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen is the disgustingly vile ruler of House Harkonnen. Seeking to acquire access to the Spice to further his rule across the universe, Harkonnen sets up shop on the Spice planet Arrakis, using his dimwitted nephew Rabban to submit the planet's inhabitants, the Fremen, to his whim through murder and fear, even having the Fremen hunted for sport. Hoping to have Rabban murdered by his "handsome" nephew Feyd-Rautha in order to gain the Fremens' trust, Harkonnen has many young slaves forced to fight Feyd in an arena for his viewing pleasure, with over a hundred dying by Feyd's hands, with Harkonnen even forcing some to sleep with him. Helping the Emperor orchestrate the destruction of House Atreides out of spite, even giving orders to Take No Prisoners, Harkonnen forces Dr. Yeuh to help him in return for his wife's freedom, only to reveal he murdered her beforehand and killing Yeuh afterward. Taking part in the Fremen genocide to crush their rebellion, despite perishing at the hands of his granddaughter Alia, Harkonnen returns many years later to possess Alia as an act of revenge, turning her into a paranoid dictator who attempts to have her mother and nephews assassinated.
• "Dla Elity" ("For the Elite"): Janusz Krzycki is a rich businessman who at first comes off as an abusive jerk who likes to bully his Ukrainian housekeeper, only to turn out to be far worse. Janusz invites young women who wish to be models into a special house where he organizes a "party" in which women are brutalized, raped, humiliated, beaten, and tied to chairs. One woman even says that rape is actually least bad thing that happens to them. And when one young woman spits on Janusz's face, Janusz orders his triggerman "Chudy" ("Skinny") to shoot her dead. Later, Janusz also orders Chudy to murder another woman who rebelled.
• "Przyjaciel" ("Friend"): Mirosław Bąk nicknamed "Miras", is the leader of a child trafficking organization. In the past, Miras kidnapped a child of a man in charge of an international adoption agency for refugee children and coerced him into cooperating into selling children to him. Under the guise of being adopted, refugee children from refugee camps in Greece, Turkey, and Lebanon are sold into slavery. One girl who was forced into prostitution committed suicide. When the same man whom Miras threatened started cooperating with police, Miras organized a meeting with him in which he attempted to fatally shoot him.
• Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe: Commandante Veracruz is a crooked military officer seeking to secure a drug trading lane for his employer, Governor Perez. In his repeated attempts to massacre the farmers currently living on the land that the trading lane crosses through, Veracruz murdered the father of Beatriz and has tried to kill the teenage girl as well. Veracruz plots to slaughter a hospital clinic of its staff and patients and blame it on the farmers, framing them as "terrorists" so Veracruz can get military aid to wipe the farmers out entirely. When Sam Axe repeatedly interferes, Veracruz murders several of his own henchmen out of annoyance, then brutally beats Sam and tries to force him to watch as the farmers, hospital patients, and multiple other innocents are gunned down.
• Nazis (Baron Wolfgang von Strucker can be found with Hydra above; Red Skull, Baron Heinrich Zemo, and Dr. Arnim Zola can be found here):
  • Hate-Monger is in fact Adolf Hitler himself, whose mind survived World War II thanks to the technologies of Arnim Zola. Responsible for all the horrific Nazi crimes, the Hate-Monger incites violent riots against immigrants and racial minorities; he uses his hate rays to turn people against one another, intending on spreading them globally so worldwide pogroms tear the people apart until only the "haters" are left to rule over. The Hate-Monger attempts to rain nuclear death on the world so only the "Master Race" can survive, and later tries to blow up New York as a message against a hub of diversity, gleeful about creating a new Holocaust, as he puts it. Even when allied with his former protege, the Red Skull, the Hate-Monger tries to betray him and gain cosmic power to enact his horrible will upon the world.
  • Heinrich Himmler was the overseer of countless acts of Nazi villainy. As head of the Schutzstaffel, Himmler managed projects, including the destruction of evidence displaying POWs being tortured in concentration camps; the Project Nietzsche Super-Soldier experiments, which involved dropping depth charges in the ocean to pile up heaps of Atlantean corpses; and his own School for Spies and Saboteurs, with his students going on to enact assassinations and even the wholesale slaughter of an American merchant ship crew. Himmler's most recognized atrocity was his role as one of the chief architects of The Holocaust, personally directing the starvation and use of Zyklon-B gas on millions of victims. As part of this genocide, Himmler authorized the murder and "rendering" of 115 Auschwitz prisoners to preserve "proof" of non-Aryan inferiority. Returning from the dead as a full-fledged supervillain with Satannish's Lethal Legion, Himmler takes the name of his favored weapon of murder and battles the West Coast Avengers, attempting to kill them all with the same horrific gas he used to bring immeasurable death to the world long ago.
• Mutant Apocalypse & Prelude to Perdition tie-in comic: Apocalypse is a monstrous mutant who believes in survival of the fittest. Apocalypse is hired by the Genoshan government to be the overseer of the enslaved mutants of Genosha, to keep them in line, and to ensure they continue to labor for the benefit of the Genoshan government. Apocalypse has his own agenda and is kidnapping mutants in Genosha and experimenting on them, to see if any of them are worthy to be his new Horsemen, not caring about the pain and suffering he is inflicting on them.
• "The Dare" series: Evelynn Barnaker is a child-eating witch who haunts 12 Ashwood Road in Boston, and has been devouring children for at least 100 years, sewing the skins of her victims into clothing and tormenting those foolish enough to move into her old house. In 1986, Evelynn converts local bully Roger into a reanimated corpse puppeteered by the vermin under her control and uses him to lure the tweenage Trouble Trio—Pauline, Kyle, and Charles—into venturing inside her house, spying on them through mirrors and gaslighting Pauline into believing she is the ghost of her late grandmother. Siccing her verminous minions on the Trouble Trio, Evelynn turns Kyle into a puppeteered corpse and captures Pauline before devouring her alive.
• Carnage Vol. 4: "Cletus Kasady" is a clone of the original created by the Carnage symbiote to help it answer the question "What is a god?" and establish a religion to worship it. Acting as the Carnage symbiote's apostle, "Cletus"—inspired by the mystery of true-crime podcasts—began murdering people with the same names as the 12 Apostles of Christ, trapping one man in a glass box covered in ciphers to be boiled to death. Hunting down the original Cletus Kasady and scornfully eating his brain to absorb his consciousness, "Cletus" poisoned the elderly Rose Thompson with Polonium-210 to force her son Flash Thompson to weaken the Anti-Venom symbiote healing her, attempting to assimilate it before trapping him in the Darkforce dimension. Hunting down and tormenting Dylan Brock and the Venom symbiote in an attempt to draw out Eddie Brock, "Cletus" tortured Dylan by revealing the full extent of the Venom symbiote's dark past before impaling him through the heart. While superficially charming, "Cletus" is every bit the nihilistic and sadistic sociopath the original was, boasting that the act of murder makes him feel like a god.
• What If Darth Sidious SECRETLY Cloned Anakin Skywalker (link): Palpatine, also known as Darth Sidious, has a vision of Anakin's body being severely damaged and orders him cloned as a back-up plan in case he doesn't prove powerful enough to be of use to him. Palpatine fills Mount Tantiss with clones of Anakin, having Jedi who survive The Purge captured and used to help cultivating working Force-sensitive clones. To keep the clones secret from Vader, Palpatine has the latter help to enslave species across the galaxy. Years after the formation of the Empire, Palpatine has one clone face Vader on Thyferra, torturing and gaslighting him after he wins. He has three working clones brought to Exegol, where he prepares the Imperial fleet in case he needs to establish dominion of the galaxy by brute force, and trains the clones in lightsaber combat until he has them fight to the death. After Vader loses a battle with Obi-Wan Kenobi, Palpatine sends a clone who survived the battle on Exegol to face Vader, before killing him personally. Palpatine continues with cloning, planning to create an army of clones with the same strength in the Force as Anakin in order to drain them all and become the Force god. Palpatine sends clone Anakin to destroy the Rebels and kill Luke and Obi-Wan, before spending years preparing for a ritual to drain clones. When clone Anakin fulfills his mission, Palpatine summons him to Exegol to be the first clone to be drained for his ritual.
• "What if Anakin Skywalker Never Killed Count Dooku in Revenge of the Sith?" (link): Chancellor Palpatine poses himself as the benevolent leader of the Galactic Republic, but in secret is actually the Sith Lord, Darth Sidious, who orchestrated the events behind the Clone Wars. After Dooku exposes him to the Jedi Council, Sidious flees from Coruscant and has the clones execute Order 66 as a distraction. After years of planning his revenge, Sidious, along with Maul and a group of bounty hunters, come into the Jedi Temple and begin killing the Jedi as they sleep, including the younglings. When Palpatine notices Padmé in the temple, the Sith Lord electrocutes her before Anakin's own eyes, finally breaking the Jedi.
• What if Obi Wan NEVER Followed Padme to Mustafar (link): Emperor Palpatine is the mastermind behind both the Clone Wars and Padme's numerous assassination attempts, manipulating Anakin to The Dark Side over a matter of years before having the latter become his apprentice. After having Anakin join him, Palpatine would order the Clones to wipe out the Jedi Order and have Anakin go to the Jedi Temple to kill everyone inside. During his final confrontation with the Jedi, Palpatine tries to manipulate a regretful Anakin back to his side, only to no prevail. After being impaled by his former apprentice, Palpatine pulls one last trick and impales Anakin on his own two blades, killing the Chosen One.
• Reborn Trilogy: Emperor Palpatine is the cruel ruler of the Galactic Empire and secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Sidious. Corrupting Anakin Skywalker into his apprentice after the latter's marriage to Padmé was discovered, Palpatine has Anakin assist in the genocide of the Jedi Order and THE oppression of the galaxy. When Palpatine learns that Vader has lost his memory, the former has Boba Fett captured and drugged to make him susceptible to his manipulations. Palpatine drains captive Force-sensitives of their blood to inject it in Boba and train him as his new apprentice, Darth Kain. Palpatine sends Kain to destroy the Rebel base on Yavin 4, ordering his spy to be abandoned when she blows her cover. Palpatine starts planning to turn Luke and Vader to his side and orders Kain to capture their friends so they can be tortured and used as bait. Palpatine captures the crew of the Millennium Falcon by threatening Cloud City and gives Han Solo to be delivered to Jabba the Hutt. When Vader confronts him, Palpatine tortures him and awakens his memories, causing a tidal wave in the Force that results in great pain to all Force-sensitives. Palpatine uses the second Death Star to lure the Rebels into a trap designed to completely destroy them, while sending Kain to kill Yoda. Palpatine lures Luke and Vader to the Sith fortress on Byss, planning to either turn them to his side or kill them, even trying to goad Luke into killing Kain when he sees no more use for him.
• Infestation ^Issues Superman Vol. 2 issue 169, Adventures of Superman Vol. 1 issue 591, Superman: The Man of Steel Vol. 1 issue 113, Action Comics Vol. 1 issue 778'': Viroxx is an ancient living virus who feeds on the energy of entire star systems. He has devoured countless worlds, turning sapients he finds promising into his sadistic Warrior-Cells and Brood-Leaders who turn inhabitants of worlds into more energy for him to feed on. Introduced by devouring a planet populated by billions, Viroxx turns the wife of brilliant scientist Korsa Majalis into his Brood-Leader, leading to her converting her own daughter into energy. Viroxx fakes his death when Flotilla, the fleet compromised of survivors of 800 worlds devoured by him, and Superman face him while he is in the process of devouring another planet. Viroxx has Brood-Leaders turn Lois Lane into one of them, knowing that Superman's love for her will lead to him being unable to let Viroxx be destroyed and take Lois with him. Viroxx attacks Flotilla in retribution for standing against him, before continuing to devour star systems filled with life. Viroxx battles Superman and Flotilla again and tries to absorb Superman and Korsa along with the weapon the latter created to destroy him, before planning to devour Earth as his next meal.
• EarthSpark: Dr. "Mandroid" Meridian is a brilliant human scientist who harbors a bigoted hatred for all Transformers after he lost his arm in their civil war. Routinely kidnapping Transformers to experiment on them, Mandroid butchers their bodies and drains them of their Energon, leaving a trail of bodies in his wake. His malice extending to anyone who allies themselves with the Transformers, Mandroid regularly tries to kill the Malto children and their parents, and mind rapes their Terran allies into his slaves. Mandroid further arranges false flag operations that endanger hundreds of humans just to stir up anger towards Transformers. In his final gambit, Mandroid murders his partner Croft, turns himself into an abomination of alien technology just to slake his destructive desires, and tries to set off a device that will kill every single Transformer on Earth—including Mandroid's own Sharkticon minions. Even after his death, Mandroid returns in the tie-in game Expedition through an AI duplicate of his consciousness and manipulates Bumblebee into retrieving the pieces of a Decepticon superweapon, intending on reassembling it in another attempt to wipe out the Transformers. Though the loss of his arm is a legitimate grievance, Mandroid is defined as nothing but a prejudiced, wannabe "savior" of the world, and is directly called out by the benevolent Dot—a fellow amputee and victim of the war—as being motivated by his own blind hate and lust for power.
• Rodrigo Carlos Pérez Morales, aka "El Sueño" ("The Dream"), is the leader of the Santa Blanca Cartel, responsible for turning Bolivia into a narco-state. El Sueño personally oversees and partakes in cocaine production and distribution; trafficking of children; and the torture and murder of thousands, leaving bodies hanging from telephone poles across Bolivia. El Sueño has any opposition abducted and executed, having a mentally disturbed "cleaner" dissolve their remains. Discovering an undercover DEA agent in his cartel, El Sueño personally tortures the man over forty-seven hours. Should his subordinates fail him, El Sueño would arrange their executions, that of their loved ones, or both. When the Ghosts manage to dismantle his cartel, El Sueño secretly makes a deal with their government for immunity, using them to take down rival cartels, gloats about his victory by presenting the recently decapitated head of rebel leader and former ally, Pac Katari. Behind nearly every one of Santa Blanca's atrocities, El Sueño's religious and charitable front masks a vicious egotist, unfeeling to the suffering he brought about.
• Terror At Oakheart: The nameless entity is a Lovecraftian beast of unknown origin and the mastermind behind Teddy and his killing spree. It arrives from space near Teddy's house and corrupts him from a simple ice cream seller to a masked serial killer. Throughout the game, the entity mentally torments Teddy as it forces him to brutally murder people so that it can feed on their corpses. After Teddy is killed by a young woman named Ashley, the entity resurrects him a year later and has him slaughter everyone at the Oakheart Police Department and Camp Oakheart, turning nearly all of the victims into its zombie slaves. Having Teddy drag Ashley to it so it can possess her, the entity devours Teddy when he fails to kill Sheriff Russell—who came to rescue Ashley—before it tries to kill Russell itself.
• Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense: Lord Clyde is the new leader of the Coyotes and the CEO of the oil conglomerate known as OMAR. Formerly known as Vigilante Slick Clyde, Clyde defected from the Vigilantes and attempted to reunite the Coyotes after they disbanded. When this failed, he started working for OMAR, where he conducted dozens of illegal deals, bought up or destroyed rival oil companies, created cybernetic assassins from unwilling human test subjects, and even eliminated many of his competitors. Despite inevitably taking over most of the world and turning it into a polluted wasteland, Lord Clyde sought out to destroy America as well. Traveling back in time with his two loyal assistants, Lord Clyde killed Vigilante leader Convoy and hired multiple mercenaries to destroy various oil and nuclear installations across America.

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Got it.

Also from the Alex rider show, Evil Malthusian is potholed twice in Greif's entry

Got it.

Bumping Yaldabaoth; there was a consensus to rewrite but no further action.

Edited by Spinosegnosaurus77 on Mar 31st 2024 at 6:44:25 AM

Alright how’s this? Also for future reference, if you want someone else to rewrite it, I’d recommend you say so, please.

Gnostic mythology

• The Demiurge, or Yaldabaoth, is a take on the Old Testament God, used to explain the Problem of Evil. A malevolent false god, Yaldabaoth is the source of humanity's sinful nature and all the misery, who takes joy in human evil, so long as he's worshiped as the Top God. Yaldabaoth created the physical realm, and humanity, as debaucherous and mindless creatures, before the higher gods took pity on them and granted them knowledge and souls, thus giving access to the true spiritual world. The materialistic Yaldabaoth would prefer to manipulate the world in wickedness, keeping humanity in the dark of the spiritual world. This puts him in direct conflict with his mother Sophia, who in some versions was destroyed by her son, with her remnants becoming humanity's souls. While Made of Evil in some versions, others are just pure evil.

So I will take the opportunity to discuss the Final Fantasy VII Remake's other two keepers aside from Hojo: President Shinra and Don Corneo. I think both can stay, with some updates.

Shinra gets no mitigating factors. If anything he comes off as worse - we see the scars of war between Shinra and the Republic of Junon, learning how they, under his watch, destroyed their capital and built the City of Junon over the village of "Under Junon" along with an Undersea Reactor, both blotting out the sun and poisoning their waters with Mako and Fiends. For a fishing culture this is, naturally, awful and the game shows us this in earnest. We also learn the late President was conspiring with former SOLDIER Glen Lodbrok - whom it turns out is actually Sephiroth in disguise - to trigger war with Wutai.

Don Corneo himself is a villain that is often used for comedy. At one point he petulantly begs a Goblin and Cactuars to give him their treasure to rebuild his criminal enterprise and ends the side quest getting upper cut hard by said goblin. Not to mention even his leering is sometimes played as a joke. And yet, as much as he's played for comedy, his actual messed up crimes are played for creep factor - in this game we learn Corneo had an especially cruel Loan Shark program, preying on those on the verge of financial ruin, offering them a loan... in exchange for shipping them off to Shinra for experiments. And considering what we know of Shinra experiments we know that's a very, very bad thing. This was the fate of supporting characters Billy and Chloe's parents, who needed the money to keep their Chocobo conservation program running. No one whose sent off is ever seen again. Corneo also has "pets", monsters he bought off the Black Market, but even Abzu, his "precious pet", he treats not great, with him stamping on his collar during the boss fight to get him angry. We also later find him angry at his Cacneos for leaving him and joining the Goblin and other Cactuars, with said Goblin saying he shouldn't be surprised considering he used them as canon fodder. Corneo is still alive unfortunately, but I hope the next game lets us take care of him for good.

So I'll do updated write ups for both of them when I post Hojo's write up. I'm thinking:

• FF VII Remake and Rebirth
  • Hojo
  • Prez Shinra
  • Don Corneo

Having finished the game yesterday, I agree that both still count, Corneo especially for sending innocent people, including Billy and Chloe’s parents, to be experimented on by Shinra. Next game will feature his long awaited end hopefully (If they don't make him somehow survive like the original did for some reason).

We don't know when Sephiroth started impersonating Glen Lodbrok, who is a separate character—being the protagonist of "The First Soldier" in Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis. Presumably the real Glen was the one who took part in overthrowing the Wutai government but was eventually killed by Rufus Shinra, and Sephiroth started impersonating him after his Heel–Face Turn and apparent death.

Edited by Arawn999 on Apr 1st 2024 at 3:56:34 AM

Oh I know there was a real Glen. But for the purposes of CM discussion, we only know about the conspiracy because Glenphiroth told Rufus.

Edited by PolarPhantom on Apr 1st 2024 at 6:13:09 AM

I recently found this on the I Saw the Devil page:

• Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Even the despicable serial killer Kyung-chul evidently has people he cares for as when he hears the voices of his abandoned elderly parents and young son (that he seemed to take efforts in keeping separate from his crimes) trying to visit him while he's trapped in a guillotine he begins to genuinely panic and frantically begs them to leave so they won't have to see him gruesomely die. It's quite harrowing and one of the actions that solidifies Soo-hyun's descent into a monster.

Now, I've not seen the movie for a while so my memory is vague to judge it as a genuine redeeming trait so I leave you decide

Not redeeming, the entry is incorrect. He’s begging them to leave because the door is rigged to a trap that will cut his head off when opened. His only concern is for himself.

I think we should cut the entry, then

Edited by Revenant30 on Apr 2nd 2024 at 7:53:53 AM

I am going to suggest a few more tweaks for the Marcus Black entry before it goes up

• The Black Hearts: Marcus Black was a soldier who chose the job for his love of killing. After being discharged for an assault on Vacuo, Marcus becomes an assassin for hire. He forces his son Mercury into the trade, putting him through brutal training and forcing him to kill people, also mistreating his wife Melanie. During a kill mission, Mercury notices the man has a child with him, and Marcus demands Mercury kill her. Marcus charges extra to torture the victims to death, like the way he laughingly recalls the death of Azura Michaels to her son Cobalt, who snaps and stabs his father Jaylin to death since the latter hired Marcus for the job. After Melanie leaves him, a fed-up Mercury tells Marcus how much he hates him, and Marcus attacks Mercury, planning to kill him "free of charge".

For Monster/Podcasts, if the entries are categorized by release date the Ain't Slayed Nobody entry for The Dare should go between the entries for The Murder Shack and A Dance With Darkness.

The Murder Shack was originally released on September 17, 2020; and was recut into three episodes on June 13, 2023.

The Dare was released on October 10, 2022.

A Dance With Darkness was released on April 2, 2023.

Edited by Arawn999 on Apr 3rd 2024 at 9:08:22 AM

Arawn, I give you permission to make the necessary changes in the Sandbox. Just don't forget to add it to the swap list.