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* They both attend breakfast every day, so surely live with their wives in Casita. Their own families in the village may or may not maintain rooms for the husbands to occupy while visiting the in-laws.

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* They both attend breakfast every day, so surely live with their wives in Casita. Their own families in the village may or may not maintain rooms for the husbands to occupy while visiting the Madrigals' in-laws.
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* They both attend breakfast every day, so surely live with their wives in Casita. Their own families in the village may or may not maintain rooms for the husbands to occupy while visiting the in-laws.
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** Alternatively, it's been longer than that, but the Madrigals deliberately changed from outfits lent by the villagers into whatever they'd been wearing prior to the collapse: their ''best'' clothes, as befitted the proposal dinner, and the ''only'' clothes they owned that weren't destroyed with the house. What better time to don old favorite outfits of their own, than to commemorate once again having a home of their own?

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** Alternatively, it's been longer than that, a couple of weeks, but the Madrigals deliberately changed from outfits lent by the villagers into whatever they'd been wearing prior to the collapse: their ''best'' clothes, as befitted the proposal dinner, and the ''only'' clothes they owned that weren't destroyed with the house. What better time to don old favorite outfits of their own, than to commemorate once again having a home of their own?
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*** Or maybe she ''likes'' the pollen, after so many years of dressing in nothing but solid pink or lavender.
** Alternatively, it's been longer than that, but the Madrigals deliberately changed from outfits lent by the villagers into whatever they'd been wearing prior to the collapse: their ''best'' clothes, as befitted the proposal dinner, and the ''only'' clothes they owned that weren't destroyed with the house. What better time to don old favorite outfits of their own, than to commemorate once again having a home of their own?
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** Simplest explanation? We know that adult Bruno "watches" ''telenovelas'' via his gift. As a boy, he'd likely have been more interested in adventure stories than romantic melodramatics, so he may have "watched" spy shows and recounted their plotlines to his sisters for their entertainment. They may not have believed him that the shows were legitimately from the future, rather than just Bruno making stuff up, but either way, Julieta retained the basics of some of her brother's stories and told them to her daughters in turn.
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** It could be part of familial etiquette that it's rude to go back for seconds before everyone's had their firsts. Camillo may be expecting one or more of the others to be slowpokes at getting to breakfast in the morning, and doesn't want to wait for second helpings because he's a growing teenage boy, hence would happily eat everything in the kitchen if he were allowed to.

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** It could be part of familial etiquette that it's rude to go back for seconds before everyone's had their firsts. Camillo Camilo may be expecting one or more of the others to be slowpokes at getting to breakfast in the morning, and doesn't want to wait for second helpings because he's a growing teenage boy, hence would happily eat everything in the kitchen if he were allowed to.

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** It's actually hailing. And it's implied that her issues are much the same as Isabela's: she's simply never had the opportunity to fully explore her powers and understand how they work because doing so puts the "perfect" image of the family and their Gifts at risk. Assuming Pepa was equally as temperamental as a 5-year-old, Alma likely very quickly saw that "happy Pepa = sunshine; upset Pepa = thunder and rain" and so encouraged Pepa to just...be happy and calm all the time, thus effectively stunting her emotionally and not allowing her to truly explore her Gift and how it works. Given that [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut human emotions become a lot more nuanced and complicated as we grow up]], the weather would probably have grown to be less intrinsically tied to Pepa's current emotions and it would have been more easy to pick and choose what weather is wanted at what moment had she just been allowed to express herself. At the end, she's finally free to both experiment with her Gift and express herself freely, so she's able to be in control of her Gift and her emotions equally. Thus, being happy while creating (and controlling) "sad" weather.

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** It's actually hailing. And it's implied that her issues are much the same as Isabela's: she's simply never had the opportunity to fully explore her powers and understand how they work because doing so puts the "perfect" image of the family and their Gifts at risk. Assuming Pepa was equally as temperamental as a 5-year-old, Alma likely very quickly saw that "happy Pepa = sunshine; upset Pepa = thunder and rain" and so encouraged Pepa to just...be happy and calm all the time, thus effectively stunting her emotionally and not allowing her to truly explore her Gift and how it works. Given that [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut human emotions become a lot more nuanced and complicated as we grow up]], the weather would probably have grown to be less intrinsically tied to Pepa's current emotions and it would have been more easy easier to pick and choose what weather is wanted at what moment had she just been allowed to express herself. At the end, she's finally free to both experiment with her Gift and express herself freely, so she's able to be in control of her Gift and her emotions equally. Thus, being happy while creating (and controlling) "sad" weather.



Casita fell, got rebuilt hopefully with a room for her, lessons were learn, all that jazz, but... what if it didn't? Even if you don't think Alma was abusive, she, the head of the family, mostly ignored her. What was her idea for Mirabel growing up and becoming an adult? Just let her in the nursery forever, as a live-in babysitter? She did stay there untill Tonio's birth, seemingly without any plans to get her a room (I say untill his birth because, let's be honest, que totally wanted to stay with him). Nobody thought she could eventually get a partner and they would want privacy? Did Alma expect them to just roll with sharing a room with toddlers, in case of any kids getting gifts adding "Oh, sweety, you have your grow-up room now! Now excuse mommy while she goes to the nursery" to the humilation layers? Maybe hoped she would one day marry and justify leave Casita, finally getting off her hair? Everything comes across rather ugly.
* With Antonio getting his gift, she would probably have been permanently sidelined, and maybe eventually separated from the family, whether of her own volition, or to make room for the new Madrigals. We already saw it with the family photograph, where she was not included, and Abuela asked her to stand aside, so she didn't cause problems with Antonio's gift ceremony.

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* Casita fell, got rebuilt hopefully with a room for her, lessons were learn, learned, all that jazz, but... what if it didn't? Even if you don't think Alma was abusive, she, the head of the family, mostly ignored her. What was her idea for Mirabel growing up and becoming an adult? Just let her in the nursery forever, as a live-in babysitter? She did stay there untill until Tonio's birth, seemingly without any plans to get her a room (I say untill until his birth because, let's be honest, que she totally wanted to stay with him). Nobody thought she could eventually get a partner and they would want privacy? Did Alma expect them to just roll with sharing a room with toddlers, in case of any kids getting gifts adding "Oh, sweety, sweetie, you have your grow-up room now! Now excuse mommy while she goes to the nursery" to the humilation layers? Maybe hoped she would one day marry and justify leave Casita, finally getting off her hair? Everything comes across rather ugly.
* ** With Antonio getting his gift, she would probably have been permanently sidelined, and maybe eventually separated from the family, whether of her own volition, or to make room for the new Madrigals. We already saw it with the family photograph, where she was not included, and Abuela asked her to stand aside, so she didn't cause problems with Antonio's gift ceremony.



In the opening song, Luisa is shown to do exercise with dumbbells and casita's floor as makeshift threadmill. It does give an easy shorthand of her powers, but why exercise? Doesn't she already have super strength? Or is she just training to gain even more strength on the top of the strength she got from her gift?
** Because excersise helps increase your limits.

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In the opening song, Luisa is shown to do exercise with dumbbells and casita's Casita's floor as a makeshift threadmill. treadmill. It does give an easy shorthand of her powers, but why exercise? Doesn't she already have super strength? Or is she just training to gain even more strength on the top of the strength she got from her gift?
** Because excersise exercise helps increase your limits.



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diuYQxcLdWw This video]] points out how Luisa is the only one shown actively trying to better her Gift, already wide awake and exercising as the rest of the family is just getting up, due to the intense demand placed on her. It's an EstablishingCharacterMoment for her, showing both her Gift and alluding to why she does it.



Presumably, the characters are all speaking Spanish, and their dialogue is only presented as English for our benefit, as per TranslationConvention. However, some family titles are left as untranslated Spanish - "abuela" and "tio" instead of "grandmother" and "uncle". What's up with that?
** Likely to enhance cultural impact. While words can be directly translated, certain words sometimes have deeper societal context depending on the language/country. Example, saying "mi vida" is very common in spanish speaking countries as a way to express love to a family member, but saying "my life" in English doesn't have the same feel to it and just sounds plain weird. They don't want to take away these aspects of culture in order to "Americanize" the language, so to say. (One could argue they could translate "mi vida" with a better English equivalency, but again, that would be removing or censoring culture and they didn't want to do that).

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* Presumably, the characters are all speaking Spanish, and their dialogue is only presented as English for our benefit, as per TranslationConvention. However, some family titles are left as untranslated Spanish - "abuela" and "tio" instead of "grandmother" and "uncle". What's up with that?
** Likely to enhance cultural impact. While words can be directly translated, certain words sometimes have deeper societal context depending on the language/country. Example, For example, saying "mi vida" is very common in spanish speaking Spanish-speaking countries as a way to express love to a family member, but saying "my life" in English doesn't have the same feel to it and just sounds plain weird. They don't want to take away these aspects of culture in order to "Americanize" the language, so to say. (One could argue they could translate "mi vida" with a better English equivalency, but again, that would be removing or censoring culture and they didn't want to do that).



I have the same kinda question the entries about what Pepa, Delores, and Isabela's contributions to the community are, this time about Camilo. Seriously... what does turning into other people do to help the community's problems? Especially since it's implied that he can't turn into anything but the other humans he knows. Of course at Antonio's gift ceremony he greets partygoers by turning into them, but... I don't know how that's doing anything particularly helpful.

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* I have the same kinda question the entries about what Pepa, Delores, Dolores, and Isabela's contributions to the community are, this time about Camilo. Seriously... what does turning into other people do to help the community's problems? Especially since it's implied that he can't turn into anything but the other humans he knows. Of course course, at Antonio's gift ceremony ceremony, he greets partygoers by turning into them, but... I don't know how that's doing anything particularly helpful.helpful.
** There's a brief moment during The Family Madrigal where Camilo is seen shapeshifting into a baby's mother so the baby can stay safe and calm while the mother takes a nap, and then turns into another José while preparing for Antonio's Gift ceremony so they're both tall enough to hang a banner, not to mention how he amuses the village children with his shifting into other people. From that, it's fair to say that Camilo's purpose is to shift into whatever person is most useful in that moment, mostly for babysitting purposes.

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** Strength and stamina aren't the same thing. Luisa was presumably building up her endurance to cope with the constant demands on her lifting and hauling abilities.



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** Hail is ice. The story is set in the tropics, in an era without refrigerators. Ice can cool drinks, chill dairy products into ice cream, and be shaved into snow cones. Pepa is doing the equivalent of making it rain candy.
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** It could be part of familial etiquette that it's rude to go back for seconds before everyone's had their firsts. Camillo may be expecting one or more of the others to be slowpokes in the morning, and doesn't want to wait for second helpings because he's a growing teenage boy who'd eat everything in the kitchen if he could get away with it.

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** It could be part of familial etiquette that it's rude to go back for seconds before everyone's had their firsts. Camillo may be expecting one or more of the others to be slowpokes at getting to breakfast in the morning, and doesn't want to wait for second helpings because he's a growing teenage boy who'd boy, hence would happily eat everything in the kitchen if he could get away with it.were allowed to.
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** It could be part of familial etiquette that it's rude to go back for seconds before everyone's had their firsts. Camillo may be expecting one or more of the others to be slowpokes in the morning, and doesn't want to wait for second helpings because he's a growing teenage boy who'd eat everything in the kitchen if he could get away with it.
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** Even before Bruno vanished, he was a recluse regarded as creepy by most of the town. Camilo's impersonation shows Bruno was already hanging around with rats before he hid himself away, which presumably didn't help his popularity much. It could be that Mirabel's parents thought it best to wait until she was older and/or had a gift of her own to meet him, both because he was so flakey and because they didn't want to scare her that her own gift might turn out to be somehow alienating as well.
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** Indeed, if she's able to hear Bruno well enough to know that he's just quietly living his life, keeping away from the family that he's loath to scare any further, then her living "in fear of Bruno stuttering or stumbling" might hold a double meaning. Namely, that while others dread his prophecies, Dolores herself is sympathetic to her uncle and worries that he'll accidentally make enough noise, by talking to himself or tripping or whatever, to expose his presence behind the walls to others.

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** It's actually hailing. And it's implied that her issues are much the same as Isabela's: she's simply never had the opportunity to fully explore her powers and understand how they work because doing so puts the "perfect" image of the family and their Gifts at risk. Assuming Pepa was equally as temperamental as a 5-year-old, Alma likely very quickly saw that "happy Pepa = sunshine; upset Pepa = thunder and rain" and so encouraged Pepa to just...be happy and calm all the time, thus effectively stunting her emotionally and not allowing her to truly explore her Gift and how it works. Given that [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut human emotions become a lot more nuanced and complicated as we grow up]], the weather would probably have grown to be less intrinsically tied to Pepa's current emotions and it would have been more easy to pick and choose what weather is wanted at what moment had she just been allowed to express herself. At the end, she's finally free to both experiment with her Gift and express herself freely, so she's able to
be in control of her Gift and her emotions equally. Thus, being happy while creating (and controlling) "sad" weather.

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** It's actually hailing. And it's implied that her issues are much the same as Isabela's: she's simply never had the opportunity to fully explore her powers and understand how they work because doing so puts the "perfect" image of the family and their Gifts at risk. Assuming Pepa was equally as temperamental as a 5-year-old, Alma likely very quickly saw that "happy Pepa = sunshine; upset Pepa = thunder and rain" and so encouraged Pepa to just...be happy and calm all the time, thus effectively stunting her emotionally and not allowing her to truly explore her Gift and how it works. Given that [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut human emotions become a lot more nuanced and complicated as we grow up]], the weather would probably have grown to be less intrinsically tied to Pepa's current emotions and it would have been more easy to pick and choose what weather is wanted at what moment had she just been allowed to express herself. At the end, she's finally free to both experiment with her Gift and express herself freely, so she's able to
to be in control of her Gift and her emotions equally. Thus, being happy while creating (and controlling) "sad" weather.

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