Scooby Doo General

A new clip from the 13th Ghost movie reveals that Scooby almost had a nervous breakdown and that's what cut their mission short.

Edited by Zarius on Jan 29th 2019 at 6:40:58 AM

Could you post the clip please?

Here's one.

Here's another.

Here's a third.

If it wasn't for the fact that he's waaaay younger than his current character design would have you believe, I'd almost ship Velma and Flim-Flam.

All joking aside, again literally all I want is for them to not pull a "live action film" and make Flim Flam the Big Bad. The demon calling Vincent "old man" has me wonder.

Here's a fourth.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 29th 2019 at 11:33:23 AM

Glad they're not forgetting Daphne's development from 13 Ghosts.

>tfw you think the board is trending because of the sudden influx of Shaggy memes

I am so excited for this.

Holy shit they're actually following up on 13 Ghosts? That's kind of amazing.

It's weird to say this but...this feels really incomplete without Scrappy :v

So the big baddie is Asmodeus himself. Yowza.

I don't know who Asmodeus is, though. At first I thought he was the ghost in charge of S.A.P.S. (The Spook and Poltergeist Society) from 'Coast-to-Ghost', but apparently that Ghost never had a name (and looks nothing like the Trailer; he looks closer to Rankor, the main threat, from the same episode). And a Google Search only has Scooby Doo and Asmodeus in the Supernatural Crossover. So if Asmodeus is from the Crossover, I'm pretty much completely out of the loop.

Still excited for this one though.

I mean, we can talk about that if you want ;)

Asmodeus is a real-world mythical figure, one of the inner circle of Hell. He's a pretty big deal.

Saw Curse of the 13th Ghost. For the most part I enjoyed it. The ending twist is divisive for me and making it another hoax has some issues but the movie doesn't entirely leave out the idea of the supernatural being real. There's also the lingering issue of why Vincent can't cast spells. Also, a very good showing for Daphne.

Well this was delightful.

Also, they even acknowledge d Scrappy.

I wonder if they're going to reference this in future movies. This movie tried to do a few different things: Reality Ensues, Fred and Daphne's dynamic being different, the Mystery Machine being sold and replaced with something even more badass, etc.

They could always just pretend it never happened next time, of course.

Ok, haven't seen it yet, but from what I can gather, there's a pleasant twist with the real 13th ghost and that he ultimately became redeemed and acted like a guardian angel. I'd have liked to have seen that twist in the show, or maybe he could have sacrificed itself to destroy the demon chest et

I hope the film series going forward retains some elements too, hell Flim Flam and Vincent could hang around for other more supernatural cases, Shaggy ought to keep doing more competent things with Daphne in charge or co-leading (and maybe, just maybe we could get some Shaphne 'ship teasing...I heard there was surprisingly little in this for a film based off their solo adventures together

The more I mull on this, the 13 ghosts resolution should have actually been the plot for the Supernatural crossover.

Edited by Zarius on Feb 7th 2019 at 12:52:09 PM

While I don't know about them leaving him open to reappear, I can happily say that the use of Flim Flam is very affectionate.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 7th 2019 at 9:31:26 AM

I was so looking forward to this, and most of the film was fine, but then the ending happened. They come up with a "rational" explanation for everything in the movie and turn the main villain into a guy with a mask, which, you know, would be fine for just about any other Scooby-Doo work, but this is a sequel to the one bit of Scooby-Doo that did explicitly have magic and ghosts and stuff, and this film technically doesn't have any ghosts in it and doesn't have a showdown with the 13th ghost. Instead they say that he turned good a long time ago. Also, when Vincent came across the chest the first time, he said that the 13 ghosts were sealed away by King Solomon. King Solomon lived in 10th Century BC. How exactly did he seal away Vincent's ancestor, who shouldn't have been born for hundreds of years? I also kept expecting Bogle & Weerd to show up, since they were a big part of the original show. I thought they would turn out to be the guys in the car. But we never meet them. Honestly I'm just disappointed all around.

The entire joke with there being a "rational" explanation for everything is that there probably isn't and Velma's just trying to grasp at straws.

Also, in a mask or not, the bad guy is still a magic-seeking archeologist.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 11th 2019 at 3:01:31 AM

Heh, cute little movie. I too got the impression that Velma was trying to push a Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane explanation because she didn't want to admit "magic" was the correct answer. If she really didn't believe, she'd have opened the real chest at the end.

I almost wanted her to do it just so we could get the "because YOU let them out!" moment from the original intro again.

At the very least the "ski lift" explanation was extremely flimsy. We're to assume that the "lift" Fred and Velma got was the work of the true Good All Along Asmodeus, I take it?

Plus, we know that the real Asmodeus showed up after the final battle, because we - the audience - saw it. Velma's full of crap, and the others know it, and even she's not sure about it, but she needs this for her worldview.

Velma being written as stringently anti-supernatural and wound tight about the existence of magic ever since Frankencreepy is kind of hit or miss, but it worked in this one because the story makes it clear she's probably wrong, and has fun with leaving the question up there.

One wonders when this takes place relative to Zombie Island, though. Then again, I'm not sure Scooby Doo of all things has real continuity anyway.

I think it goes in era. Zombie Island and Witch's Ghost are definitely continuous, and maybe Alien Invaders and possibly Cyber Chase as well (those two might be their own thing, come to think of it).

Everything in the What's New Era is a continuity (so Legend of the Vampire to Samurai Sword), and might be connected to the What's New show as well.

Everything in the current era is a continuity (so Abracadabra Doo on to now).

All off them (except maybe the What's New ones) are in Broad Strokes continuity with the original series (up to A Pup Named Scooby Doo), but not anything after that. On the flipside, none of the eras ever tie into one another.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 12th 2019 at 3:44:32 AM

I did find Bogel and Weerd's absence disappointing though. Maybe because with twelve demons captured and the last turned good, they just decided to give up offscreen? They were never exactly the most loyal or competent evil minions.