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Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1851: Apr 27th 2024 at 3:35:43 AM

I'm far from caught up on the show (I think I have seen...early season 6?) but it's a bit strange how Lincoln is suddenly a big spy fan.
Don't get me wrong, he can be, but here it happens suddenly with no introduction yet is treated as if that's always been a thing (like his grandpa offering him a classic Steele comic), and the show use David Steele in plots that would have previously been Ace Savvy plots (with him now being Lincoln default Mystery Solving alter-ego).
Is someone on the production team a huge fan of Spy fiction or something?
I assume it remains a thing in the following seasons/episodes I've not seen yet if they're making the movie around that theme. Is Ace Savvy Put on a Bus or do Lincoln just add David Steele as another Show Within a Show he enjoys?

Edited by Smoker130 on Apr 27th 2024 at 12:40:02 PM

chino514 (Apprentice)
#1852: Apr 27th 2024 at 3:30:23 PM

Likely the latter, since if it was the former, what would be the point of "Deal Me Out"?

Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1853: Apr 28th 2024 at 7:07:29 AM

Mistake, I didn't mean Put on a Bus but rather Brothers Chucked. It doesn't seem so much like they'd have Lincoln stop liking Ace in-universe (especially since, as you said that would contradict previous episode). Rather it seems like they suddenly don't overtly mention it past the convention episode.
That could just be happenstance rather than the writers deliberately phasing out the serie, and IIRC Lola do mention Steele is something Lincoln recently got into (in the episode where Lincoln suspects the new neighbors are spies), implying the writers aren't not suddenly pretending he is always been here.
But it's still curious they'd have two Show Within a Show that occupy roughly the same narrative function. Works of fiction rarely bother having more than one for a single niche. Like Dessert Storm is the Cooking Show, Rip Hardcore is the Man vs. Wild Pastiche, etc...
Also having a spy comics that have a long classic history (it apparently been a thing since Pop Pop was a child) that's popular with children does not work as well as Superhero as a parody of "typical popular comic books". James Bond is primarily known as a movie franchise targeted at adult and the Spy-for-kids genre was mostly a thing in 2000's cartoons like Kim Possible , Code Name Kids Next Door or Totally Spies!.
Now I'm clearly overthinking this. Maybe Ace appears in the episodes I've not seen or maybe they'll just have a Ace episode in the next season.

Edited by Smoker130 on Apr 28th 2024 at 4:07:59 PM

PokecaptorSean Route 86 service to Reservoir from Massachusetts, United States Since: Sep, 2020
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#1854: May 13th 2024 at 4:47:24 AM

Why does No Time To Spy have to be animated? Why do the Casagrandes still appear in The Loud House? And why do we need to see Lori in college? I do hope season 8 will be a final season. SpongeBob is more successful so that is why it's not stopping.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#1855: May 13th 2024 at 8:42:43 AM

[up]Nickelodeon can't just rely on one show for success, so that's why they aren't just gonna cancel Loud House just because of Sponge Bob.

And why shouldn't Loud House have an animated movie? By that logic, should Hey Arnold, Wild Thornberrys, and Rugrats' movies not have been animated also?

And what's wrong with the idea of trying something new with Lori in college? Is it so wrong to try and expand the scope?

PokecaptorSean Route 86 service to Reservoir from Massachusetts, United States Since: Sep, 2020
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#1856: May 13th 2024 at 2:12:52 PM

All good shows come to an end. The original series has ran long enough.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#1857: May 13th 2024 at 2:15:37 PM

[up]By that logic, Sponge Bob deserves to end more since it's gone on for 25 years now.

Besides, what other show should Nickelodeon push other than Loud House then? Do you really want Sponge Bob to be the only show they push?

Shoobedobah Anon Zilla from Guess Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#1858: May 13th 2024 at 2:37:48 PM

[up] Well, Rock, Paper, Scissors (Nickelodeon) is pretty good and apparently doing well ratings wise.

Loud House is honestly something I watch when there's legit nothing else on nowadays. I feel like Seasonal Rot hit it pretty hard, and I don't like how far it went from its slice of life roots. Not to mention it focusing on a bunch of side characters I, in all honesty, do not care about.

Edited by Shoobedobah on May 13th 2024 at 5:38:22 AM

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#1859: May 13th 2024 at 3:43:48 PM

[up]So, what made it work when Hey Arnold also focused on side characters in later seasons outside of Arnold?

And what about Sponge Bob, do you think that show's getting stale like Loud House too?

And at least Loud House isn't flanderizing anyone or having terrible animation changes like the later seasons of The Fairly Odd Parents.

Shoobedobah Anon Zilla from Guess Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#1860: May 13th 2024 at 3:53:30 PM

[up] Eh... I disagree. Leni in particular has gotten quite a bit dumber starting from Season 5 onwards. I know she was meant to be the family's Dumb Blonde, but not to the point she can't distinguish High School from Preschool.

I think the difference is (and this is 100% me personally talking and nothing objective) I just cared about the characters in Hey Arnold more. I don't think most of Loud House's side characters are engaging enough to have entire episodes centered around them, especially most of Lincoln's squad sans Clyde.

As for SpongeBob.. ehh. I think some of the episodes that have been coming out have been a bit.. stranger lately, but I don't think it's been as bad as say, Season 6, 7 and 8.

Edited by Shoobedobah on May 13th 2024 at 6:54:04 AM

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