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SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15826: Oct 24th 2023 at 3:06:01 PM

Kinda curious how Stan managed to explain that he faked his death to Dipper and Mabel's parents and get himself unbanned from places.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#15827: Oct 24th 2023 at 7:16:32 PM

Ford would already be in a lot of trouble with the USA law with all the shenanigans Stan got up to. He is in the no-fly list, for one...

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#15828: Oct 24th 2023 at 8:15:10 PM

Ford would also be on a hundred watchlists if the country knew half of what he actually did. Even before he disappeared for thirty years, he was living in a shack and not talking to anyone, to the point that the people of Gravity Falls didn't find anything odd about Stan's behavior changing "Ford's" personality over night.

Anyway, I definitely feel like Ford was projecting onto Dipper, and later probably realized "that offer was kind of crazy, also I literally haven't met your parents despite them being my nephew and his wife." Most post-canon fics have Dipper as Ford's apprentice in some way that doesn't involve them living alone in a cabin in the woods.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15829: Oct 24th 2023 at 8:34:04 PM

I could definitely see it.

Ford's big character development in the show was realizing his reaction to Bill tricking him shouldn't have been "I can't trust anyone but myself and other people will drag me down, so I have to close myself off" (which he tried to impart to Dipper at first), but instead "I need to stop being so narcissistic about my place in things and open up to other people."

So after he has that realization, yeah. I could totally imagine him offering an apprenticeship to Dipper in a way that wouldn't get him arrested, traumatize Dipper's sister and probably his parents, and impart entirely unhealthy ideas in Dipper's head.

I've read a few of those fics myself, and enlightened Ford is definitely a thing I wish we had gotten more than a couple scenes of in the show (and Lost Legends) itself.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 24th 2023 at 8:35:00 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#15830: Oct 24th 2023 at 9:19:01 PM

Ford would also be on a hundred watchlists if the country knew half of what he actually did.

Depends. He did mention he made the mind control tie for "Ronald Reagan's masters", which...implies he had *something* to do with certain high-ranking people at some point in his life.

...and that he might have aided the Reagan administration in some way, which is a big "What the fuck, Ford?" moment.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15831: Oct 25th 2023 at 9:03:10 AM

[up][up]Its like Ford really needed a serious reality check and he got one in the form of weirdmageddon

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uncertanSearcher Definitely Hatsune Miku from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
Definitely Hatsune Miku
#15832: Oct 25th 2023 at 10:07:11 AM

I feel like a lot of the criticism towards Mabel tends to ignore that the twins are ultimately still 12 year old children.

Like, I have seen people frame Dipper not staying with Ford like it is him throwing away his entire future.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15833: Oct 25th 2023 at 10:10:14 AM

his entire future at 12 years old!?

Yeah,that's very silly,not to mention improbable..

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 25th 2023 at 7:06:01 PM

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akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#15834: Oct 25th 2023 at 11:12:09 PM

What I always found weird was how it was treated so either/or, like, nobody remembered the next summer holiday. It would have been way different if anyone would have said Dipper can live in California and go to school and all there, and during the summer he can return to Gravity Falls with Ford to be an apprentice and see Wendy and other friends and aquaintances. Same with Mabel.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#15835: Oct 26th 2023 at 6:39:31 AM

Right, that's why Ford's offer was crazy. Most post-canon fics go with the "part-time apprentice until you're at least out of high school (and maybe college)" instead of "drop everything and everything you know right now."

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#15836: Oct 26th 2023 at 7:16:54 AM

Yeah, Ford is very technologically skilled, but not necessarily a great educator. His previous apprentice didn't turn out so great, poor soul

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15837: Oct 26th 2023 at 7:32:59 AM

I dont want to see the bad timeline where Dipper is living as a crazy hill billy

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 26th 2023 at 3:33:20 PM

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Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#15838: Oct 26th 2023 at 8:42:10 AM

That would be the case if Ford learned nothing from what happened with his prior apprentice, and I feel like he learned a bit from that portal mishap.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#15839: Oct 26th 2023 at 10:27:19 AM

I agree that he has learned ONE lesson, but still think Ford isn't at a point where he's a fit sole educator/carer.

I definitely think Dipper would need a full emotional/mental support network of family, friends, and other loved people to keep them all grounded while Ford would be teaching him.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15841: Nov 7th 2023 at 8:22:51 AM

An AMV focusing on Stan,its really good too

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 7th 2023 at 4:23:28 PM

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BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15842: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:04:09 PM

So apparently, there’s a whole controversy about Hirsch and him being mentioned in Justin Roiland’s DMs… but I don’t have the whole story. Can someone explain?

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
alanh Since: May, 2010
#15843: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:15:18 PM

No, and if you don't know don't import drama.

BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15844: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:15:56 PM

Alright. I was just trying not to. I was hoping someone else knew though.

Forget I said anything.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 14th 2023 at 9:20:34 AM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#15845: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:51:56 PM

That's just old as fuck internet rumors that have no validity to them. Don't import this kind of stuff to the forums.

BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15846: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:56:43 PM

Okay. Sorry. Thank you. I did not realizing I was importing drama. It was not my intention. Moving on.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 14th 2023 at 9:57:50 AM

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
jouXIII The One with Knowledge of Things from Between the Multiverses (X-Troper) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One with Knowledge of Things
#15847: Dec 14th 2023 at 7:12:37 PM

On a more positive note... It seems Alex Hirsch is cooking up something.

I assure you, I'm a completely trustworthy person.
BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15848: Dec 14th 2023 at 7:15:19 PM

Alright… I’m leaning in…

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15849: Dec 15th 2023 at 5:01:31 AM

Saw the thread on reddit about it,its either an artbook or a new comic book

not season 3!

Reddit mega thread to save you a search

edit:confirmation its a book about Bill!

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 15th 2023 at 3:56:58 PM

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BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15850: Dec 15th 2023 at 7:58:06 AM

Here’s the link to the book’s page on the Disney store.

Apparently, it is aimed at older readers.

https://books.disney.com/book/the-book-of-bill/

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Did you miss him? Admit it, you missed him.

The demon that terrorized Gravity Falls is back from the great beyond to finally tell his side of the story in The Book of Bill, written by none other than Bill Cipher himself.

Inside, Bill sheds light on his bizarre origins, his sinister effects on human history, the Pines family’s most embarrassing secrets, and the key to overthrowing the world (laid out in a handy step-by-step guide). This chaotic and beautifully illustrated tome contains baffling riddles, uncrackable ciphers, lost Journal 3 pages, ways to cheat death, the meaning of life, and a whole chapter on Silly Straws. But most importantly, The Book of Bill is deeply, deeply cursed.

Beware: This book travels to dimensions meant for older readers.

Alex Hirsch, #1 New York Times bestselling author, resuscitates this infamous villain and invites fans to a Bill’s eye view of the Gravity Falls universe. There are many who believe this book is too dangerous for human hands. But if you can’t resist, beware: Once you make a deal with Bill, it’s not so easily undone . . .

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 15th 2023 at 11:00:06 AM

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.

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