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#2276: Feb 6th 2024 at 1:16:01 PM

[up] BTW I agree with you. I was just kidding with my last post lol.

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#2277: Feb 6th 2024 at 3:04:25 PM

Oh, my bad. Sorry. sad

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#2278: Feb 6th 2024 at 3:16:31 PM

[up]Oh did you respond to me? I actually felt I need to explain but I didnt know you responded to me lol. Sorry again!

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#2279: Feb 6th 2024 at 3:17:21 PM

Only 3 movies in Dreamworks' library have been G-rated (and 2 of them were only distributed by Dreamworks) Chicken Run, Spirit, and the Wallace and Gromit movie.

Contrast that with Pixar, whose entire library was G-rated up until The Incredibles and continued to be consistent with G-rated movies until at least the 2010s.

Edited by AdventurousYak9234 on Feb 6th 2024 at 3:19:10 AM

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#2280: Feb 6th 2024 at 9:00:21 PM

I mean with The Little Mermaid 1989, she's just nude in the most innocent way for the most part. With Road to El Dorado, they outright imply Tulio and Chel definitely smashed. Haha.

Yeah like I said, the drop-off of G-rated animated movies at a certain point was gradual and then happened really fast. DW's first kids/family film (Mousehunt) was in 1997 and the G ones were released 2000, 2002 and 2005 respectively. I'm beginning to think that in the grand scope of things, these movies getting the ratings they did feel like accidents. Haha.

The Shrek Special Edition DVD came today and I put it with the Widescreen Shrek 2 DVD. I got a Fullscreen one too which I think got shipped today to go with the Fullscreen Shrek 2 DVD I got long ago as well.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Feb 7th 2024 at 10:18:59 AM

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#2281: Feb 6th 2024 at 10:40:15 PM

Avoid the Dreaded G Rating became a thing largely due to the success of Shrek, which was milking its raunchy, irreverent humor. So of course other Dreamworks movies would follow suit.

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#2282: Feb 7th 2024 at 7:13:53 AM

Watched Orion and the Dark. It can be on the fluffy side, has some really mind-screw moments, and has that "written for kids" feel, but still a delight to watch and so pleasing to the eyes.

MsCC22 Since: Aug, 2022
#2283: Feb 7th 2024 at 8:32:03 AM

[up]x2 Speaking of Shrek, I was watching the Forever After movie and the cake smashing scene always gets me to feel so uncomfortable because of how bad it made Shrek look (even though I sympathized with him in the scene before it). I mean I even hated how you were supposed to think that Shrek wasn’t appreciative of the things he had before he made that reckless wish. I still love the movie with all my heart, though.

[up]I’ve never heard of that movie, but I will give it a watch. What’s it about? Is it worth the hype?

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#2284: Feb 7th 2024 at 10:30:35 AM

DW always had more of an edge starting out certainly. You look at Small Soldiers being meant for a kids/family audience and it ended up with a PG-13—and how surprisingly dark and edgy Mousehunt was for a PG at that too. I almost grouped in Catch Me If You Can with the kids/family collection since it's only PG-13 and realized I couldn't—same with Bridge of Spies which has the same rating, but is also not meant for kids/families (though Paulie definitely looks family friendly without a doubt). Haha.

Debating whether or not to keep Galaxy Quest in there as well. While it's PG, it was originally made—and intended—or a much more mature audience certainly. I don't group Cat in the Hat in with them since it's more of a Universal one too.

Is there a DreamWorks thread under Live Action movies too? I try to keep the focus on the animated ones here certainly. Be many more movies to talk about there because of that certainly.

Yeah edgy kids movies have definitely always been a thing and the line certainly got blurred in the years that followed. While both were Aardman, as edgy as Wallace & Gromit could get, the Chicken Run movies were ALWAYS definitely more harrowing in their dark materials if you ask me.

[up]Shrek because he got caught up in the tedium unexpectedly ended up lost in it and filled with regret that he'd lost his old life and by extension, his purpose too. It was only when he went back and saw how worse off everything was and how much better his life became too that it made him truly appreciate it all and be grateful. He needed that reminder/revelation to rekindle his spirit and truly discover the meaning behind the happiness and peace he realized he'd already found.

Shrek Forever After has such a great ending. You really felt it was the perfect farewell to that world at the time. I occasionally like to replay the party scene from the opening edited into the ending during Shrek's roar so as to see how quick the transition happened in real time for everyone else.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Feb 7th 2024 at 10:51:22 AM

MsCC22 Since: Aug, 2022
#2285: Feb 7th 2024 at 10:52:20 AM

[up]I wanted to add that Shrek also needed better coping skills when it came to the issues he had before he made the wish. I recall one scene when the tourist bus came to his swamp while he was using the bathroom. I agree that Shrek needed to learn a lesson, but I also couldn’t blame him for losing his patience when it came to certain things before he made the wish.

I loved the idea of the whole It's a Wonderful Plot since Shrek was able to see how worse his friends ended off due to his own selfish wish. It also gave more depth to his character (because we’ve never seen him cry) l

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#2286: Feb 7th 2024 at 10:57:49 AM

[up][up] OH THAT REMINDS ME! Mousehount DID have a sex scene. Sure it was implied but now I realize sex scenes are a thing in PG movies.

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#2288: Feb 7th 2024 at 12:38:13 PM

Yeah Lars literally drops his balls before that. His yarn balls. Those too. Haha.

Oh sex scenes are definitely still implied in kids films from time to time and there are some live action films that are PG that can get away with implicated sex scenes as well—though very rare. I think that the characters can't be sleeping in the bed together and if they're both on the bed, they have to have enough clothes on to be decent. There was a PG movie once that indicated the two characters were getting intimate regularly without actually showing them outright making love (The Great Buck Howard in case anyone was wondering).

I'm immediately thinking of one specific animated kids show on two different occasions implying characters were about to have sex and then the scene dramatically cutting away or getting interrupted before they did. Not a DW one though, so I'll move on. PM if you're curious.

Didn't Shrek the Third outright imply he was naked in the bed in the beginning? I mean again, that's nothing new though. The Shrek movies are filled with TONS of sexual innuendos.

To discuss DW live actions films, I created a thread here. Feel free to check it out.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Feb 7th 2024 at 12:38:52 PM

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#2289: Feb 7th 2024 at 12:47:37 PM

[up][up] I love this post. Best post ever. I love that scene.

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#2290: Feb 7th 2024 at 4:09:32 PM

[up][up] There is scene, where donkey took away Shrek bedsheet and with disgusted face said something like "You should buy pyjamas" (I saw only Czech dub, so I dont know original phrase). Shrek's nudity is very strong implicated and obvious.

On the other hand, I think, that this scene just say, that Shrek sleep naked, because it is comfortable for him, nothing sexual. Shrek not only dont wear pyjamas in this scene, he generally dont have any. And Fiona wear some nightshirt in that scene.

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#2291: Feb 7th 2024 at 4:11:01 PM

That’s what Donkey says in English too.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#2292: Feb 7th 2024 at 9:28:21 PM

[up][up]Shrek 2 showed him in his underwear in bed though. Not that it matters clearly.

Speaking of the second movie and that scene, "I Need Some Sleep" by Eels probably still slaps even today.

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#2293: Feb 7th 2024 at 11:30:09 PM

[up]x10

I’ve never heard of that movie, but I will give it a watch. What’s it about? Is it worth the hype?

Orion and the Dark is a Netflix movie that just came out. I don't think it had any hype?

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#2294: Feb 8th 2024 at 12:06:01 AM

My hope with the next Shrek movie is that we see Death again, even if in an indirect manner. He's a character I definitely want to see come back. My hope is that there's a way to do it without rehashing The Last Wish too certainly.

MsCC22 Since: Aug, 2022
#2295: Feb 8th 2024 at 4:17:53 AM

[up]Speaking of the next Shrek movie, I’m frustrated with the inconsistencies when it comes to the release dates. Plus we are barely hearing any news about it, thus giving me the impression that there will be yet another delay.

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#2296: Feb 8th 2024 at 5:36:18 AM

Orion and the Dark may not have had any hype but it reached the Top 10. Even in Paraguay it is listed among the most watched movies on Netflix.

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This is going to be so much fun.
#2297: Feb 8th 2024 at 10:02:48 AM

It's a really pleasing, visually engaging movie. Love the transition between night and day for instance.

The screwiness of the story suddenly makes sense once you finish the film. But it can get tiring.

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#2298: Feb 8th 2024 at 10:15:58 AM

I haven't seen anything about this besides this thread.

It's been 3000 years…
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#2299: Feb 8th 2024 at 10:24:59 AM

[up] You can see if the movie is popular in your country by seeing if it is on the top 10 on your Netflix if you have it.

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#2300: Feb 8th 2024 at 11:02:46 AM

I have seen that poster before at some point and now I am curious about that movie. Being a kid in your room alone at night is a VERY relatable topic.

Canonically, Puss in Boots 2011 is before Shrek 2, right?


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