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Servitor2152 Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Apr 29th 2024 at 5:51:54 PM

This is in response to this Image Pickin' thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=17124387400.71163000

Arknights is a gacha game, in the manner of Fate/Grand Order or Girls' Frontline. Much like in those games, sometimes a character's artwork will change once they have been upgraded to a certain point, and players can purchase cosmetic skins that will change the character's appearance. Including those images is the primary reason for the "image bloat" on these character pages. As a result of the action taken due to the linked thread, however, the two characters listed as examples — and only those two characters — have had all of their character images removed except for the base artwork.

I do not necessarily disagree with the reasoning behind removing this artwork — image bloat could certainly be considered a problem. However, I disagree with the lack of consistency displayed here. Either these characters should have their Elite 2 and cosmetic skin artwork restored (I agree that "character's appearance in X chapter or side story" artworks can probably be left out), in a manner consistent with the rest of the characters on the page, or every character on the page should be reduced to only their base artwork. As should every character on every character page for Arknights. And I would expect the same treatment for games like Girls Frontline and Fate: Grand Order as well.

If we are going to implement this change, we should do it consistently.

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#2: Apr 29th 2024 at 6:01:58 PM

Reduce every character to their base artwork, and give quality upgrades to the base artworks if possible.

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#4: Apr 29th 2024 at 6:22:48 PM

I agree that images pertaining to alternate costumes can be removed since it's an ever updating list of them and thus can cause a lot of bloat.

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#5: May 1st 2024 at 6:32:06 PM

I agree we should be consistent about keeping specific images.

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Servitor_2152 Since: Jan, 2001
#6: May 2nd 2024 at 6:24:41 AM

I like the idea of limiting characters to their base and Elite promotion art and not chasing the rabbit that is cosmetic skins.

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#7: May 2nd 2024 at 9:49:39 AM

Base artwork only [tup]

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8: May 7th 2024 at 11:39:18 AM

Clock is set, any other thoughts?

Servitor2152 Since: Oct, 2010
#9: May 7th 2024 at 12:55:18 PM

Looks like three votes for base artwork only, two votes for base + promotion artwork, and everyone agrees to ditch cosmetic skins and any other artwork, if I'm reading things correctly?

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#11: May 8th 2024 at 5:35:35 PM

Base artwork, move everything else to an Image Links page.

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#12: May 8th 2024 at 7:47:36 PM

Base and promotion artwork only

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#13: May 10th 2024 at 3:45:54 PM

Base + Elite 2 only. And also maybe rework alternate appearance / skin-specific trope entries so that people have a frame of reference of whatever it is describing or idk?

Edited by inbeforedash on May 10th 2024 at 6:53:53 PM

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14: May 10th 2024 at 5:38:12 PM

Hooking a crowner, let me just attach one character's image list for reference

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blacknight_arknights.png
Whether city or barrens, they're her battlefields to freely traverse.
Click to see Elite 2 appearance.
Click to see her Coral Coast: Summer Flowers FA641 skin.
Click to see her 0011 Series: Fragrance from the Branches skin.

EDIT: Ok, hooked now & shutting off clock. Also changed the thread title to Characters.Arknights to make the scope clear

Edited by Synchronicity on May 10th 2024 at 9:55:21 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#15: May 10th 2024 at 5:40:18 PM

Also, as a non-fan, I'd appreciate it if someone could explain what "Elite 2" is and why they would be worth keeping?

Edited by Synchronicity on May 10th 2024 at 8:40:30 AM

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#16: May 10th 2024 at 5:58:09 PM

[up] "Elite" is the Arknights term for a promotion. "Elite 2" is the rank that gives the Operator (playable character) a new artwork. It's similar to Fate/Grand Order's Ascensions.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17: May 14th 2024 at 7:35:22 PM

Votes bump, one option in green.

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#18: May 16th 2024 at 7:06:40 AM

Going ahead and calling this for base artwork only.

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