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Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#8501: Apr 29th 2024 at 11:47:35 AM

[up][up] I think that's covered by Most Writers Are Adults... at least, Arthur and All Grown Up is listed there, partially for this reason.

That said, there might still be a trope there, especially if it focuses on all schools being treated like they work the same as high school.

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#8502: Apr 29th 2024 at 10:14:19 PM

A possible Missing Supertrope Syndrome? After discovering that I Call It "Vera" is specifically for people giving personal names to their weapons, I asked in TF for tropes where people name their personal belongings (e.g. car, furniture, etc.) in general but got no response.

So unless the description of I Call It "Vera" is wrong, and it's actually broader than what it says (its placement on the Naming Conventions index describes it as people naming any items), is it okay to create the supertrope?

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#8503: Apr 30th 2024 at 5:45:34 AM

I think the elementary school one is covered partly on a TLP draft; I think the draft is called "Misplaced College Professor"?

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#8505: May 2nd 2024 at 3:13:16 AM

  • Procrastination Snowball: A character is self-depricating, lazy, afraid to do something, or otherwise thinks there's no point. Because their inaction makes the situation worse, they are even less motivated to do something about it, and so on.
  • Spiral Of Depression: A character hates themselves and think they are worthless or there's something wrong with them. Because it's a self-identifying delusion, no matter what others say, their mental state continues to deteriorate over time.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#8506: May 2nd 2024 at 4:41:27 AM

Blackout Make-Out: Lights go out, couple gets busy. Sometimes they get caught in a compromising position as the lights come back on.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#8507: May 2nd 2024 at 7:21:59 AM

Is there a tropeworthy idea in "putting on a Martial Arts Headband to show a character getting serious"?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#8508: May 2nd 2024 at 7:26:53 AM

Given that tying a headband is part of some Lock-and-Load Montage-s including the page image... Probably?

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#8509: May 2nd 2024 at 8:03:28 AM

Could be more broader as Serious Mode. Some characters have other visual cues between their normal and Let's Get Dangerous! attitude.

e: lol, that's already a redirect

Edited by Amonimus on May 2nd 2024 at 6:03:42 PM

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#8510: May 2nd 2024 at 8:37:30 AM

"Serious Mode Visual Cue", maybe? If we wouldn't be allowed to spin off the redirect, of course.

Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on May 2nd 2024 at 8:38:22 AM

AquaEclipse hiding a clown costume under my lab coat from the rabbit hole of academia Since: Jul, 2018 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
hiding a clown costume under my lab coat
#8511: May 2nd 2024 at 12:25:22 PM

Been thinking of another trope: I think I have quite a few ideas. This one's Snack-Stealing Seagulls: seagulls being portrayed as greedy food thieves. For examples, I know there's Finding Nemo, a Minecraft mod that has a shout-out to the movie, and at least one Minecraft SMP that uses the mod and has its own spin on it that doesn't restrict it to the gameplay. And of course, that's Truth in Television (I've seen it with my own eyes). Would that be a valid trope?

Alternate titles might be Gluttonous/Greedy Gulls.

Edited by AquaEclipse on May 3rd 2024 at 3:26:43 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#8512: May 2nd 2024 at 12:30:27 PM

Seagulls are definitely menaces, lol. I think it's worth a shot.

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number9robotic (Experienced Trainee)
#8514: May 2nd 2024 at 4:33:35 PM

Is it viable to make a trope covering in-universe cases of Corpsing? Say something like Cant Keep A Straight Face?

I'm aware that Corpsing was made Trivia because it's a term specifically applicable to actors, with a condition during the TRS repair of "In-Universe examples are still allowed, but need to be marked as in-universe", and now I'm just wondering if it's a viable option to just cut the need for that and just make a trope specifically for characters who fail to hold a serious face, which could be also applicable for scenarios beyond being an in-universe actor.

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#8516: May 3rd 2024 at 12:13:19 AM

I came across "By Royal Approval" on a works page and innocently cross-wicked this to a page it referenced. The problem was, when it came back as a red link, it doesn't exist by that name. (It was formatted, where it appeared on the Tomorrow's World works page as By Royal Approval. This wasn't immediately apparent when looking at the page: the blue link on the page masked deeper formatting as UsefulNotes/TheBritishRoyalFamily By Royal Approval.)

"By royal approval" is pretty much a British trope: it refers to the concept that a product, service or cultural work somehow has far more validity and certainly more social cachet when it enjoys explicit Royal support or patronage. This might cover, for instance, Princess Anne's support and approval of Blue Peter, a children's show where she was, for a space, an occasional presenter. Her father, the Duke of Edinburgh, was a lifelong supporter of challenging "outward bound" projects for young people and sponsored the Duke of Edinburgh Awards to get young people more socially engaged and to get them outdoors doing physically active things.

There's also the Royal Warrant system, where preferred suppliers to the Royal Household are entitled to carry a Royal Warrant on their premises and products, to advertise that they must be doing something right if the Royal Family buy our stuff. (If TV Tropes had a member of the British Royal Family active as a Troper, and permission was sought, it could then in theory carry a Royal Warrant as Provider of Troping Services By Royal Appointment...)

I'm wondering if "Royal Warrant" or "By Royal Approval" is a tropeworthy thing: I'm reluctant to put this up immediately as a TLP draft as right now it'd be a bit scanty and stubby, and I've got an idea that this has been used in-universe as a sitcom/literature/movie thing - snobbish or socially climbing people seeking the Warrant for snobbish or status reasons, with comedic results. (can't quite place the links just yet, but it is very early morning here). I'll go hunting for examples later, but it might be worth putting this out here for public comment, to see what people think.

Edited by AgProv on May 3rd 2024 at 8:30:39 PM

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#8517: May 3rd 2024 at 3:28:50 AM

Trying to draft this, but on the top of my head, I can only think of one example, so perhaps anyone else have any more ideas?

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Useful Note
#8518: May 3rd 2024 at 8:32:01 AM

[up][up] It sounds like a Trivia page where most examples relate to real life, but there are also a few in-universe examples.

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IronAnimation Since: Jan, 2012
#8519: May 3rd 2024 at 3:33:28 PM

^^ Companion Cube covers most examples I can think of. There's also the Lady Vessel draft on tlp

Edited by IronAnimation on May 3rd 2024 at 3:35:04 AM

DragonRoar87 No thoughts, only Undertale Yellow (she/her) from The Underground Since: Jan, 2023 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
No thoughts, only Undertale Yellow (she/her)
#8520: May 3rd 2024 at 7:59:15 PM

So a few days back I tried the Trope Finder for "Someone covers a corpse with a blanket as a final gesture of kindness/respect" and I only got back Due to the Dead, but someone suggested we might need a subtrope. I dunno if it's tropable or not so that's why I'm here!

Similar to Comforting Comforter, but the person being covered has passed away.

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IronAnimation Since: Jan, 2012
#8521: May 4th 2024 at 2:15:36 AM

I think it could be it's own subtrope? I think it's often done also for the additional reason of not having the dead body continue to distract from the scene.

Is there any additional culture meaning to this specific gesture?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#8522: May 4th 2024 at 8:03:00 AM

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IronAnimation Since: Jan, 2012
#8523: May 4th 2024 at 10:50:18 AM

I mentioned this a long time ago, but I'm considering a trope of

"Extremist Moderate Juxtaposition" where 2 individuals/groups/options want the same thing but go about it in different ways.

"X men vs Magneto" is the gold standard example of this. I have a second example from a web comic, but still looking for a third to launch a draft.

Was also thinking "Reformer vs Destroyer" but don't want to limit it to explicit conflicts between the groups.

Edited by IronAnimation on May 4th 2024 at 10:54:48 AM

DragonRoar87 No thoughts, only Undertale Yellow (she/her) from The Underground Since: Jan, 2023 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
No thoughts, only Undertale Yellow (she/her)
#8524: May 4th 2024 at 12:16:53 PM

I'm not sure if this one counts but

Doodle World: Zavier and Mr. Riffraff both want to prevent the timeline from turning down an apocalyptic path, but Zavier is willing to go to much higher extremes. He has attempted murder to keep the timeline straight, while Mr. Riffraff gently nudges other people in the correct direction.

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