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EndOfAnAge.Real Life

• The Costume Ball of 1903 in the Winter Palace is considered to be the "last great royal ball" in Europe, as royal balls would experience a sharp decline shortly after due to a mix of changing social trends and royal balls becoming frowned upon by society due to being associated with wealth and the elite aristocracy. It didn't help that many of the monarchies who hosted these balls would fall out of favor around the same time thanks to the World Wars and various revolutions (like the Russian Revolution that happened only two years after the 1903 costume ball).

• Common Knowledge: Regarding "Kokoro", many fans tend to see Len as the scientist that built Rin, However, this is largely Fanon, and in the original PV, the scientist's identity is left ambiguous (though he's shown to be a fully grown adult). In the song's official sequel, "Goodbye, Thank You", which is sung from the scientist's point of view, the scientist is voiced by Gakupo as opposed to Len.

• Broken Base: The prospects of including Amy Rose and Rouge in the third movie. Some fans argue they are obligatory inclusions since the movie is based on Sonic Adventure 2 — which both characters played a major part in — while others argue that the movie is not obligated to include them despite their importance in the game, given that the movies are doing their own thing rather than being faithful adaptations of the source material and that it would be better for them to be saved for future films to prevent cast bloat.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on May 7th 2024 at 9:45:52 AM

For Magnificent Bastard

• The Grimm Variations: The Old woman is the mysterious charming leader of the Orphanage. The woman manipulates the children of the orphanage into becoming independent through tests and her robotic helpers Mama and Papa. The woman even is fine with Mama being injured to help provide the children with a test to prove their Will and allow them to survive on their own. The woman giving the children a choice to forgot all they have learned and return to the the orphanage or choose to enter the rest of the world even if it's emotionally painful. Ultimately the woman though inflicting emotional pain on them ultimately has the childrens best intentions at heart.

Complete Monster

• Black Panther (2023): Kivu'ma was once a zealot and former friend of King M'tel named Captain N'dozi who became a monstrous spectral Undead Abomination to purge Wakanda off all "plunderers". Kivu'ma instead would target anyone for even the most arbitery of reasons and mass murdered innocents before consuming their souls to feed himself before he was sealed away by M'tel. Resurfacing in the present, Kivu'ma makes a deal with crime lord Baba Nkisu to feed off hundreds of people while keeping their bodies alive in his space station so their souls will last longer inside Kivu'ma well being horrifically tormented. Kivu'ma helps Niksu unleash a mob war across the city of Birnin T'Chaka, endangering the population. Kivu'ma eventualy kills Nkisu through painful illusions when he's run his use. He later manipulates Niksu's daughter into becoming his new host by blaming his death on T'challa. Though Kivu'ma claims that he's helping save Wakanda, T'Challa calls him out that he's ultimately just a power hungry fanatic wanting to wipe out anyone who gets in his way.

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Saints Row (2022)

Sergio

• Arch-Enemy: He serves as one to Neenah. Ever since Sergio becomes the leader of Los Panteros, he has shifted the gang's focus from family to himself, leading to a rift between him and Neenah. Following an attempt on the lives of her companions, Neenah decides to leave the gang, much to Sergio's displeasure. In response to her departure, Sergio destroys her car, which is a keepsake of her deceased mother. Furthermore, Sergio offers a reward to anyone who eliminates a Saint, and doubles the bounty for those who take out Neenah.

Edited by MM_Crusader on May 6th 2024 at 6:11:22 AM

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@ The Window or the Stairs

This is often invoked by other characters as a Secret Test of Character. The "window" option can sometimes take the form of someone deciding to Screw This, I'm Outta Here. When the situation is serious enough, choosing the "stairs" may set up a Cheaters Never Prosper, Mugging the Monster, or Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves scenario. If the "window" option would have gone badly anyway (although probably not as bad), the choice may overlap with a Morton's Fork.

• Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers: The vigilante mob that arrives looking for Michael in the final act is offered a choice between escorting his attempted victims Rachel and Jamie to safety and letting the arriving police take care of Michael, or charging inside to risk getting picked off by the Nigh-Invulnerable Stealth Expert killer. They choose to drive Rachel and Jamie away, unaware that Michael is hitching an Underside Ride and quickly starts going through them to get at the girls.
• The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus: People experiencing imagination fantasies are often offered choices like climbing a steep staircase to sobriety, stopping for a nice drink at the bar, or joining the police force to beat people up or running home to their mothers. Taking the easy option tends to result in death by explosion.
• Joy Ride 3: Roadkill: When the homicidal Rusty orders Jordon, Alisa, and Mickey to meet him and their kidnapped friend at an abandoned location, Mickey leaves to go get the cops instead, while urging the others not to go to the obvious trap. Mickey is ambushed and brutally killed immediately after they part ways, while Jordon and Alisa both survive the movie.
• The Towering Inferno: Several characters are offered a chance to evacuate the burning build down a sheltered elevator rather than a dangerous zipline and accept the offer. However, the elevator is put in jeopardy by an explosion and one of its passengers falls to her death.
• In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer prequel short story "Blood and Brine," a pirate mutiny leads to the crew splitting up and taking separate ships, being faced with the choice between siding with their captain to sail a skeleton-crewed ship that has recently been subjected to monster attacks or taking a ship that is seemingly free of whatever is attracting the monster and has a much bigger crew (and will get to take a bigger share of the crew's treasure). Unfortunately for the men who side with the mutineers, the monster is being drawn to the treasure they take, not any individual ship.
• Republic Commando: During Order 66, Etain is trying to escape offworld before being executed as a former Jedi, but when Bardan Jusik offers to pick her up in his speeder to take her to the spaceport, she decides it would attract too much attention and she can just blend in with a crowd while walking there, as she isn't carrying anything which would identify her as a Jedi. Unfortunately, several other Jedi who have the same idea are caught with lightsabers while she is nearby and she dies trying to break up the fight.
• Serge Storms: Sometimes, Serial Killer Serge will trick his victims into picking something that will kill them over something harmless. For instance, in Tiger Shrimp Tango, he makes a man choose between being hurt with various weapons (such as a pistol) or three cigars. The man picks the cigars, but rather than having him smoke them, Serge converts the nicotine in them to liquid form and uses them as a (highly toxic) spray to kill the guy while the revolver is unloaded.
• Cold Case:
  • In "The Badlands," after one Gang Banger suspect, JT, fingers another one, Joe, as someone who bragged about committing the murders, the cops ask where Joe lives. JT is reluctant to risk snitching on Joe, but the cops threaten to arrest him for the murders if they think he isn't cooperating, whereas if Joe is the killer, then they'll take him off the streets and he won't bother JT. Joe isn't the killer though (he just implied he was to JT- to build Villain Cred and keep the gangs from seeing him as easy prey, leading to his Start of Darkness), so the cops let him go, but he's mad enough about JT talking to have him killed.
  • In "Kensington," recently unemployed mill worker Monty has the option between taking a risk starting a cab business with his friends (with no guarantee about the fares they will get) or withdrawing his contribution to the business (making it tank) to take a lower paying but guaranteed job at his uncle's shoe store. The shoe store goes bankrupt a few months later.
• Jeremiah: The end of season 2 reveals that the Army of Daniel came into being when the Founders had a clear choice between leading by example as Hope Bringers to become a clear counterpart to the sinister Valhalla Sector or using authoritarian force to consolidate their territory. They choose dictatorship and end up Burning the Ships and being committed to their new government's ideals of contest and autocracy even after the Valhalla Sector falls, when if they'd gone the other way, the Valhalla Sector would have probably still been destroyed without ever having a chance to turn its might against them and they would have had an easy time dealing with Thunder Mountain and its allies.

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• Are the founders of the Army of Daniel a textbook example of Slowly Slipping Into Evil He Who Fights Monsters, or were they always just starscreams whose motives for opposing the Valhalla Sector were purely selfish?

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@ The Fall Guy (2024)

• Actually Pretty Funny: When Colt starts doing reckless stunts with an obnoxious customer's job while working as a valet, the customer's date looks amused by the show.

@ Eerie Indianna

• Ensemble Dark Horse: The Captain Ahab Expy storm chaser and Melanie, a classmate who starts acting differently after a heart transplant in one of the more Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane episodes and is played by Danielle Harris, are each only in one episode but are among the better-remembered characters from the show.
• Common Knowledge: One reason some fans think Simon's crush Melanie dies offscreen after saying she needs some time alone at the end of their sole episode is because of a line in his narration that he never saw her again after that meeting. What he actually says is that he never kissed her again after that meeting.

Edited by Alpinist on May 7th 2024 at 11:43:50 AM

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Knuckles

• Love to Hate: Pistol Pete is such a horrible father and person in general, that it is hard not to cheer when his ex-wife and daughter beat him up. However, Cary Elwes’s hammy performance and highly exaggerated British accent makes him every bit as hilarious and enjoyable as he is despicable and hatable.

Free Guy

• Love to Hate: Antwan is the Big Bad whose supposed to be hated for his jerkass and greedy behavior, but Taika Waititi’s Laughably Evil performance makes Antwan every bit as enjoyable to watch as he is despicable.
• Ax-Crazy: He becomes increasingly psychotic and unhinged as the movie progresses, cumulating in him taking a literal axe to destroy all of the servers.
• Psychopathic Manchild: For a CEO of a massive company, Antwan is very childish in his behavior whether it be making inncredibly lame puns, outdated references, or throwing temper tantrums whenever he doesn’t get his way. The psychopathic really gets highlighted near the end where he tries destroying the main servers to erased the game world despite knowing at that point there is sentient life inside that world and would die if he commence with his actions.
• Virtuous Character Copy: Downplayed due to Antwan still being a horrible person, yet he manages to be one for Nobuyuki Sugou from Sword Art Online. Both are Corrupt Corporate Executives who are extremely childish and rude, stole someone else’s game to pass on as their own, has an antagonistic relationship with the heroes, and are meant to be hated for their despicable actions. Unlike Sugou however, Antwan doesn’t have any perverted lust towards the female protagonist, doesn’t perform any mind raping experiments on innocent people, lacks Sugou’s god complex, instead being motivated by basic greed, and is much more Laughably Evil, making Antwan much more likable in comparison.

Edited by G-Editor on May 7th 2024 at 9:31:16 AM

Since my last post here (probably) gets ignored, so I decided to post it again.

Dub Name Change

• Doraemon
  • In some unlicensed Malay translations of the manga, the title was changed to "Labu Labi" (Pumpkins), with the title character's name changed to "Labu", which means "pumpkin", and Nobita's name changed to "Labi".

Edited by SpiroSpiro on May 7th 2024 at 1:37:10 AM

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That looks like good English.

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I don't see any English problems in that example.

@Tylerbear 12

...are doing their own thing rather than being faithful adaptations...

@miraculous

Edited by Arivne on May 7th 2024 at 8:54:21 AM

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He serves as one to Neenah. Ever since Sergio became the leader...

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@Alpinist

@G-Editor

@Spiro Spiro

I don't see any English mistakes in that example.

@Ayumi-chan

Edited by Arivne on May 7th 2024 at 8:51:58 AM

Thank you, Arivne.

Edited by Toot on May 7th 2024 at 11:40:51 AM

Four-Girl Ensemble:

• Kill la Kill: The female main cast is composed of snarky tomboy Ryuko, the smart Ojou Satsuki, the girly Tsundere Nonon, and the Genki Girl Mako.

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Trivia.Hi Fi Rush:

• Swan Song: Hi-Fi Rush would be the final game developed by Tango Gameworks, as over a year after its release, Tango Gameworks would be closed by Microsoft as part of a company-wide restructuring.

• Once Original, Now Common: The two part saga was revolutionary at the time for being the first large scale high fantasy film. However, it has since fallen into obscurity due to it being overshadowed by the many many fantasy films that were directly or indirectly inspired by the films since its release. Because of that, modern viewers aren't likely to get much out of either part today, since everything in them has been done better by those aforementioned fantasy films.

Edited by Tylerbear12 on May 7th 2024 at 8:58:00 AM

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@ Self-Made Lie

• Sullivan's Travels: While lecturing the well-off Sullivan about how little he knows about the masses, the studio bosses describe working hard in lower-class backgrounds to support their families and get through college, only to admit later that they made up or exaggerated a lot of that stuff. One of them got a million-dollar loan from his uncle to get started in business.
• Dortmunder Villain of the Week Harry Hochman considers himself a self-made man due to building a hotel empire out of just a few million dollars he inherited.
• The F Troop tie-in novel The Great Indian Uprising features a swaggering young general who is not even old enough to be a college graduate but insists that, even if his father is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he gained his rank at a young age through pure merit. One stressful setback later, he quickly admits that actually, his father unilaterally decided to promote him way before he was ready.
• John Putnam Thatcher: In Something in the Air, Mitch Scovil loves to talk about how he was a humble young business consultant before a bold business idea and a lucky lottery ticket propelled him to the head of a major airline and, while all of that's true, he tends to unconsciously downplay how much work his business partners out into it, and how much more practical their ideas tend to be than his. One of those partners, Clay, is a straighter example of the trope, as he got his start-up money by smuggling drugs rather than raiding his savings account like he implied.
• Skinny Dip: Red Hammernut likes to talk as if he's a hardworking hammer who has to put up with unfair government regulations, but he inherited millions of dollars from his daughter to first buy his sugar cane empire and has clearly never spent a day of his life working in the fields.
• Out of the Dark: Affie is quite proud of how her adoptive mother Scover built the Byen Guild of shippers out of a bunch of old ships and into a big conglomerate, until she learns that Scover did so by relying on/exploiting indentured workers.
• Teen Power Inc.: In The Case of Crazy Claude, Nick's father is always talking about his client Oscar Seely, a struggling inventor whose brilliant inventions have him on the verge of becoming a tycoon before he's thirty. The kids learn that all of those inventions were stolen from one of Oscar's rivals.
• Cold Case: Downplayed in "Beautiful Little Fool," where the late Felix Spyczyk was indeed a former servant who built a shipping empire from the proceeds of a clock he sold, like his family proudly states in the present. Still, the clock was stolen property (and the murder weapon used to bludgeon its rightful owner) rather than a severance package from his employer as he claimed.
• Hogan's Heroes: Colonel Klink is an Impoverished Patrician who had an undistinguished peacetime career but now enjoys a level of renown (although not necessarily respect) among his peers for being the commandant of the only POW camp in Germany that has never had a prisoner escape from it. However, unknownst to Klink and his superiors, this is because he has a camp full of Play Along Prisoners who help him maintain his record because they can exploit his incompetent leadership for their Might as Well Not Be in Prison at All spy work.
• McHale's Navy: In "Birth of a Salesman," Lieutenant Whitworth is a peacetime insurance executive who brags about how he went from office boy to a major executive in a matter of months, although it turns out this is because his father was the boss, something he quickly admits as the punch line to a joke.

@ The Fall Guy (2024)

• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
  • Iggy's involvement in Ryder and Gail's plan, willingness to ham it up, role as Ryder's girlfriend, and skill at doing her own stunt work (which could have made her an interesting Foil to Ryder) all feel underused, given how she is highly Out of Focus and only has about thirty lines of dialogue, most of them in one scene.
  • Alma's introduction establishes that she is a Beleaguered Assistant to Ryder and is hopeful about getting a role in the movie's production. She proceeds to get a good Action Survivor scene, but afterward, she's Put on a Bus for most of the movie, and she has no preexisting rapport with Colt, a fellow sufferer of her boss's antics.

@ The Fall Guy (2024)

• Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Colt and Dan abandon their plan to unlock a cellphone by having Venti engage in Hollywood Hacking when she tells them that it would take three or four days and that lots of people write their passwords down anyway, which would be a good shortcut.

@ Eerie, Indiana

• Keep Circulating the Tapes: Several installments of the novel series only got limited printings (although others are more widely available) and were snatched up by fans fast, with the available copies, if any, costing more than a DVD box set of the series.

@ Aliens in the Attic

• Scientist vs. Soldier:
  • Sparks, the alien engineer, is constantly being bullied around by the three military members of the invasion squad while also questioning whether the humans deserve to be violently conquered.
  • Tom is a mathlete and science fair competitor who favors learning about the aliens' capabilities and mission and taking the time to make practical weapons against them, while his cousin Jake, a paintball war games enthusiast, has a Leeroy Jenkins attitude toward resistance at first. However, as the movie progresses, they develop into a Brains and Brawn team.

@ Scholarship Student

• The End of the World (FernWithy): District kids who win scholarships to the Capitol, usually for work in the arts, have a chance to become Capitol citizens and thus escape having their future children worked as slaves and reaped. Peeta's mother was the only person in all twelve districts to get a scholarship one year but ultimately (and bitterly) sacrificed it rather than abort her first child. Stylist Portia is another scholarship recipient and Snow makes a point of stripping her of the Capitol citizenship that came with her scholarship before executing her for working with the Rebellion.

@ ymmv/Dc The New Frontier

• All three of Hal's brothers are prominently mentioned in a letter he writes home despite their obscurity outside of the main timeline.

@ Justice (DC Comics)

• Unexpected Character: Most of the kidnapped friends and loved ones of the League members are commonly used characters, but The Commissioner Gordon figure who Hawkman and Hawkgirl work with is someone many fans are likely encountering for the first time, and the same may be true of Hal's brothers.

@ Ciaphas Cain

Edited by Alpinist on May 8th 2024 at 9:56:49 AM

Trolls Band Together:

• It Runs in the Family: Branch and his brothers seem to have the same issue of not opening up to others, even to each other.
• Parents Know Their Children: More like siblings know their sibling as John Dory, Spruce, Clay and Floyd are quick to recognized Branch the minute they see him as an adult, even though they haven't seen him in 20 years.