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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#10426: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:27:12 PM

Also, they can just go fuck themselves. Apparently, they never needed to worry about ad-blockers for decades, and only now they've embedded themselves into the daily lives of pretty much everyone and made competition impossible did it suddenly become a problem.

Edited by Kayeka on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:33:25 AM

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10427: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:46:02 PM

And fix their digital rights management claims and fair use rules.

Too much good content was taken out because someone used an audio or video sample on their video and it got shot down because Universal Music, Warner Music or whatever publisher you got claimed copy right infringement. Or the phony DRM claims that plague other content creators.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#10428: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:46:04 PM

Fix harmful or invasive ads first then. Im not buying premium

This is pretty much my opinion on the subject as well. From what I've seen of it, YouTube Premium is not worth it, and having an adblocker on fixes the issue of intrusive ads just fine.

And if they ever manage to make the whole thing unviewable with an adblocker on, I'll just wait for the adblockers to catch up. And if they never catch up, I have other alternative forms of entertainment I can turn to.

leafsaber47 Oi, Dokutah, wanna Sploon? from post-apocalyptic world (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Singularity
Oi, Dokutah, wanna Sploon?
#10429: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:53:50 PM

I said this once or twice before and I'll say it again — why the hell is YouTube is still obsessed with Minecraft videos of almost all kinds? Especially when they show up in the related videos tab when you're watching something that barely has anything to do with Minecraft?

Not many people have the time and mental fortitude to play the funny square game every single day, you know.

Edited by leafsaber47 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:54:36 AM

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#10430: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:54:53 PM

What "harmful or invasive ads"? YouTube's ads are just videos. They don't install malware. The FBI's advice is for web browsing.

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king15 Having Faun from not certain Since: Mar, 2024
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#10432: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:06:45 PM

Which is why most of them also use patron and sponsors, cause adsense if very unreliable due to the changing climate of the algorithm.

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VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#10433: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:10:43 PM

[up][up]If they're small, no, they don't get any money.

If a channel gets big enough, they can sign up for revenue sharing, and they get a cut of the money whenever somebody clicks or taps on an ad.

Sponsorships, merchandise, YouTube membership, Patreon, and Ko-Fi are entirely separate sources of income.

Louis Rossman at some point argued that blocking adblockers might actually have a negative impact, as it would reduce the clickthrough rate

Anyway, mpv doesn't block ads, so I figure I'm safe. If not, I'll download to my hard disk and watch the videos locally.

Edited by VampireBuddha on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:12:01 AM

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#10434: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:14:05 PM

"YouTubers should just seek alternate sources of revenue if viewers refuse to watch ads," is not the argument for stability and success that some people seem to make it out to be.

Of course, ad revenue itself doesn't seem to be as reliable a source of income as it may have been in the past, so anyone who doesn't seek those alternate sources is not taking maximum advantage of their channels.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#10435: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:22:24 PM

Google reminding me to donate to Adblock companies for their good work, reliable customer service, and professional behavior.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 22nd 2024 at 6:56:31 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10436: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:49:29 PM

Paying YT for now showing ads is a bit annoying because YT premium only offers no ads on YT and YT music.

It doesn't offer much else, which is a premium for what exactly? You don't get extra content for that, you just pay for the "privilege" of not being annoyed randomly for 2 minutes. I store my music locally, so I don't use YT music or Spotify and the rest of the features, like background playing are something I don't use.

Besides, the price on non EUR an US$ is a bit salty.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#10437: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:12:19 PM

YT premium doesn't really justify itself when most of your viewing content aren't professional Youtubers living off clicks.

If you are following/attached to some youtuber doing it professionally I guess it really is a moral equation you have to figure out independently.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#10438: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:20:42 PM

What "harmful or invasive ads"? You Tube's ads are just videos. They don't install malware. The FBI's advice is for web browsing.

Having seen what Youtube's ads do on their mobile app, they are extremely invasive. Replace the entire damn UI its especially bad as it does it every 3 minutes.

Not to mention how god damn lewd the youtube ads are getting. Saw one that was just a 20 minute youtube video of some lady trying on bras.

eirigfi I exist. Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Hiding
I exist.
#10439: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:27:02 PM

[up]I think I’m one of the lucky ones in regards to those ads since I’ve never saw them.

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10440: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:48:35 PM

I've seen several ads for right wing news sites that have issues with posting fake news.

But those were South American groups.

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CursedBarney Stocking Suit from Your subconscious (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Stocking Suit
#10441: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:58:38 PM

[up][up][up]Think that's bad? I recall getting bombarded with ads for VShred, to the point where I was seeing them video after video like it was the only thing being promoted on YT.

No, I'm not gonna be a macho man.

Edited by CursedBarney on Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:59:00 AM

Fear it... or not.
eirigfi I exist. Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Hiding
I exist.
#10442: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:02:12 PM

[up]And the person behind vshred is a scammer. How wonderful.

You did it! Thanks to you lot using The Power of Friendship I can cause all the mischief I want!
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#10443: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:02:40 PM

Just wait until you get an ad talking about your B—- SWEAT while small children are in the room.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
omega2900 Lu-cha! Lu-cha! Lu-cha! from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
Lu-cha! Lu-cha! Lu-cha!
#10444: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:18:53 PM

Meanwhile I seem to always get ads for dating sites.

Is it because I watch a lot of V-Tuber content?

Help me. I can't get it out of my head.
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#10445: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:49:38 PM

I think the most frequent kind of ad I had when using Youtube's mobile app without Premium was business-related ads, the innocuous ones and the crypto bullshit.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#10446: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:58:09 PM

There actually is a site I used to watch anime on that did ads. They were on the side of every video but they weren't in the video, loading as soon as I clicked, open a new tab or forcibly reload my page, and I wasn't forced to watch them mid-episode. They weren't short films either and if you watched them they were quick and painless.

Hanging ads are ideal and the only problem was if I clicked on the wrong part of the screen.

We've had decades worth of technological innovation but companies just straight up don't care about moderating their advertisements. As long as it gets in front of you for some reason that is worth $.

Are we going to have billboard advertisements half a mile away projecting themselves holographically into our smart vehicles on family trips that you can have deactivated by buying Ford or Hyundai Premium?

Cause if you really want to corner people into paying attention to your product - doing it on long boring family road trips to see the grandparents in a locked moving vehicle they can't escape from for several hours - is a good place for it.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:04:32 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#10447: Apr 22nd 2024 at 7:58:35 PM

That would be highly illegal because of the risk of causing distracted driving. The NHTSA would sue faster than you could say, "Eyes on the road, Dad!"

Once full autonomy is a thing, and widespread enough, I'd imagine we will get ads beamed into our cars. I mean, we do already: it's called radio. Been around for a few years, I've heard.

"What if they put ads everywhere?" is not that much of a gotcha question... that's basically our reality now. Civilization hasn't collapsed.

So while everyone else is getting angry, I'm paying Google to see fewer of them. It's a win for everyone involved. No apology, no shame.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:59:11 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Movie and TV Goddess
#10448: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:08:37 PM

So, in regards to the situation with Watcher (I know they already took back their statements about making their own streaming service), what would be so bad about someone making their own streaming services?

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#10449: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:33:59 PM

Its mostly down to the field being oversaturated. Amazon Prime, Disney Plus, Netflix, Dropout, the educational one that Legal Eagle and Tier Zoo have content on, ect. Rooster Teeth obviously also use to have one but they're done. You need a subscription for everything and the cost of living has gone up to the point these luxuries are becoming harder and harder to justify.

Edited by Silentedge89 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:36:22 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#10450: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:59:12 AM

I said this once or twice before and I'll say it again — why the hell is YouTube is still obsessed with Minecraft videos of almost all kinds? Especially when they show up in the related videos tab when you're watching something that barely has anything to do with Minecraft?

Not many people have the time and mental fortitude to play the funny square game every single day, you know.

The funny square game is the highest-selling video game of all time (300M copies sold) by a MILE. it's over 1.5 times more than Grand Theft Auto V (2nd place at 195M) and 3 times as many as Tetris (3rd place at 100M).

The algorithm likes Minecraft videos because more people own Minecraft than any other game.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:59:31 AM


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