To-do list:
- Merge both Double Don't Know and One-Liner, Name... One-Liner with Repeated for Emphasis, and adjust Repeated for Emphasis's definition/description.
- Adjust Repeated for Emphasis's description to account to account for the fact that Repeated for Emphasis is no longer specifically for a single word, and now allows repetition of multiple words.
- Clean up examples of Double Don't Know.
- Move on-page examples of Double Don't Know to Repeated for Emphasis, then turn Double Don't Know into a redirect when that's done.
- Move wicks for Double Don't Know to Repeated for Emphasis.
- Clean up examples of One-Liner, Name... One-Liner.
- Move on-page examples of One-Liner, Name... One-Liner to Repeated for Emphasis, then turn One-Liner, Name... One-Liner into a redirect when that's done.
- Move wicks for One-Liner, Name... One-Liner to Repeated for Emphasis.
Original post
According to the laconic, it is when a statement is repeated to add emphasis. Unfortunately, unless if there are some additional words or pauses, it's not clear that emphasis is added, so most examples come off as simply repeating what was said, which makes me wonder if it's tropable.
According to One Liner Wick Check, the results are as follows:
- Added emphasis: 9/50 = 18%
- Just repeating the phrase: 36/50 = 72%
- ZCE: 3/50 = 6%
- Unsortable: 2/50 = 4%
Can this be saved in any way? We could rename it, but is there enough to keep, or should we just cut it?
Update: This thread was expanded to cover Double Don't Know. The following OP was written by Laundry Pizza 03:
Double Don't Know is just Repeated for Emphasis for "I don't know" (which isn't a tropeworthy StockPhrase by itself) — in other words, it's The Same, but More Specific. Suggest merge and cut.Wick check results:
- Repeated for Emphasis for "I don't know": 28/47 (60%)
- Just "I don't know" twice: 3/47 (6%)
- Other misuse: 1/47 (2%)
- ZCE: 4/47 (9%)
- N/A: 11/47 (23%)
One-Liner, Name... One-Liner wick check:
A wick check for One-Liner, Name... One-Liner.The issue: The trope has some tropeworthiness concerns; being a Stock Phrase is not helping.
This wick check will see if there is anything to save.
Wick count: 50/50
Emphasis, troper. Emphasis. (9/ 50 = 18%)
If it's clear the repeated one-liner is being emphasized.
- Film.Doctor Sleep: Dan while giving a prep talk to Abra in the epilogue:
"Shine on, Abra Stone. (Beat, gives her a sad but hopeful smile) You shine on."
- Funny.Intertwined:
- GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas.Tropes O To Z: Said when you fail Zero's "Supply Lines": "Curse you, Berkley! CURSE YOOOOOUUUUU!"
- Recap.Doctor Who S 27 E 10 The Doctor Dances: "Everybody lives, Rose! Just this once, EVERYBODY LIVES!" Plus a pothole in another related example, though that other example is borderline ZCE.
- Recap.Sherlock S 04 E 03 The Final Problem: John when reminding Mycroft that they have to save the girl on the plane.
"Today, we have to be soldiers, Mycroft. Soldiers."
- Recap.Warrior Cats A Clan In Need: Barley says to Jumper and Hoot: "Go away, brothers. Just go away."
- SelfDemonstrating.Bantering Baddie Buddies:"Why, so it appears, Mister Liche, so it appears."
- VideoGame.Highborn: Trillian tells Foglio "Walk away, four eyes. Walk away very quickly or I will stab you."
- WebAnimation.Oxhorn Short Shorts: Mr. Evil in "Mister Evil Runs For Office" says "One day, Quintus... one.... day" in the bar at the end right before he becomes Lieutenant Colonel Virtue.
Just a phrase, troper. Just a phrase.(36/ 50 = 72%)
No New Stock Phrases exist for a reason.
- Dude, Not Funny!:
- Switch to English:
Kruge: (in English) Well done, Valkris. Well done. (in Klingonese) Disengage cloaking device.
- Awesome.Coryx Kenshin (caption): We know, Cory. We know
- Characters.Hollow Knight Bosses: This is how he greets the Knight for the first time:
Well met, my friend. Well met. I am Grimm, master of this troupe.
- Film.Captain Phillips: Muse's response to Phillips' suggestion that he must have another career choice: "Maybe in America, Irish, maybe in America."
- Film.Fury 1936: Joe in his prison cell to his dog when the fire starts: "Looks bad, Rainbow. Looks bad."
- Film.Major League: After manager Lou Brown sees his Ragtag Bunch of Misfits arrive at spring training and is amused:
Lou Brown: "My kind of team, Charlie, my kind of team."
- Film.Sicario: Matt when announcing the rules of engagement before they enter the tunnel.
Matt: Weapons free, my friend. Weapons free.
- Film.The Goonies (re: How Much Did You Hear?)
- Funny.The Emperors New School: "Empress Malina." Yzma disguises herself as Kronk and Kronk is so freaked out by this that he flees school and hides inside a cave. "Make it didn't happen, monkey. Make it didn't happen."
- ImprobableAimingSkills.Live Action TV:Captain Pellew: You may, Mr Bowles. You may.
- Literature.From The Earth To The Moon: "White all, Barbicane, white all!" (they are playing domino)
- Radio.The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy 1978: Majikthise and Vroomfondel, two philosophers, threaten to go on strike if Deep Thought proceeds with his program on finding the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe and Everything. When Deep Thought asks who a strike of philosophers would inconvenience, Majikthise counters "It'll hurt, buster. It'll hurt!"
- Recap.Adventure Time S 4 E 3 Web Weirdos: As Barb and Ed's spider babies crawl all over him and Finn, Jake quips "Circle of life, Finn. Circle of life."
- Recap.Avatar The Last Airbender The Southern Air Temple: Aang to Appa when reaching the Southern Air Temple.
Aang: We're home, buddy. We're home.
- Recap.Futurama S 6 E 17 Benderama: Bender in the end when he is suspected to have folded the sweaters: "Maybe I did, Fry, maybe I did."
- Recap.Ready Jet Go S 1 E 18 Comet Fever Asteroid Patrol: Dr. Bergs to Sean: "An army of one, my friend, an army of one".
- Recap.Rick And Morty S 1 E 2 Lawnmower Dog: Rick's final line.
"What do you know, Morty, what do you know?"
- Recap.Rick And Morty S 3 E 9 The AB Cs Of Beth: Summer: That's you, dad! That's you!
- Recap.Rick And Morty S 4 E 6 Never Ricking Morty: In the story where Rick sheds a tear about Summer leaving for college, he calls it "A human moment, Morty, a human moment."
- Recap.Sense 8 S 1 E 02 I Am Also A We: Will's father when warning him about bring up the Sara Patrell case.
"Let her go, Will. Let her go."
- Recap.Star Trek Deep Space Nine S 06 E 15 Honor Among Thieves:
Sisko: The Chief can take care of himself as well as anyone I know.Bashir: You're right about that, sir. You're right about that.
- Roleplay.The Ballad Of Edgardo
Squid: So what do we do now?
Edgardo: We train, Squid. We train. - SelfDemonstrating.In Medias Res: Until now, old friend, until now...
- Series.Mayday: Two survivors from First Air 6560:
- Gabrielle: This is my first plane crash.
Nicole: Me too, sweetie. Me too.
- Series.Modern Family:Lampshaded;
Mitchell: You love scrapbooking.
Cameron: Do I, Mitchell? Do I? [exits]
Mitchell: No, stop. Don't do the double question thing to prove a point. I hate it when people do that.
Cameron: [holding baby Lily around the door, speaking falsetto] Do you, Mitchell? Do you?
Mitchell: Lily! Other example is a See X - Theatre.Pygmalion: Higgins to Nepomuck when the latter insists on Eliza being Hungarian.
"Have it your own way, maestro. Have it your own way."
- Theatre.Ride The Cyclone: Done (though featuring an insult rather than the subject's name) by Noel after Ocean supposedly uses up the group's three questions for the entire event.
Noel: Ugh- even in death I can't escape her! She's followed me into the afterlife! Well played, Satan, well played.
- VideoGame.Devil May Cry 3 Dantes Awakening: Vergil says this after winning against Dante in their first fight:
Vergil: Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness.
- VideoGame.Injustice Gods Among Us: When Shazam takes out Black Adam with the magic lightning bolt.
Green Arrow: Thunder of the gods, Flash, thunder of the gods.
- VideoGame.Primordia 2012 (re: "Pan Up to the Sky" Ending)
- VideoGame.The Elder Scrolls Online: In the Markarth storyline, when Sai Sahan summons his Shehai for the first time, Lyris asks him what he thought of while doing it. Sai responds, "I thought of you, Snow Lily. I thought of you."
- WebAnimation.Knights Of The Old Republic Cinematic Universe: When Captain Mitchell sees that the Jedi have arrived to reinforce the Onderonian resistance against the Mandalorians like his fallen lover Commander Lurna said they would, he's pulled out of his Despair Event Horizon and remarks "You were right, my love. You were right."
- WebVideo.The Lizzie Bennet Diaries: Lizzie to Charlotte in Episode 55: "Low blow, Lu. Low blow."
- WesternAnimation.The Cattanooga Cats: "What's The Motor With You?" concludes with Autocat, having had his butt literally kicked in a foiled plan, getting a lift home from Motormouse. Autocat is standing on the exhaust pipe of Motormouse's motorcycle and he has a pillow tied to his bottom. When Motormouse asks why he doesn't sit down:
Autocat: I've got my reasons, Motormouse. I've got my reasons.
- WesternAnimation.The Iron Giant: Mansley's line "Something big, Marv. Something big.", upon the question what they are looking for.
No context, troper. No context. (3/ 50 = 6%)
- Characters.CSI Miami: Making a drinking game out of the amount of times Caine does this in the show is just asking for alcohol poisoning. Boils down to "this person does it a lot"
- Franchise.Rambo: Just the trope name
- Series.CSI Miami (re: Punctuated! For! Emphasis!): Just about every line out of Horatio's mouth. The other lines are One-Liner, Name... One-Liner. No context
Unsortable, troper. Unsortable. (2/ 50 = 4%)
Double Don't Know wick check:
Double Don't Know is Repeated for Emphasis But For The Phrase "I Don't Know", an unnecessary distinction. Repeated for Emphasis for "I Don't Know" (28/47)
- Music.Abbey Road: From "Something": "You're asking me, will my love grow? I don't know! I don't know!"
- Film.War And Peace 1966: When Pierre asks Natasha if she was really in love with "that vile man" (Kuragin), an agitated Natasha responds "I don't know! I don't know!"
- Series.Bosch: In Season 3, Episode 5, "Blood Under the Bridge," Robertson, who is investigating the Gunn murder, is trying to determine what happened, talks to Edgar, who first states that he thinks Bosch is being framed. He then posits that, to put heat on someone else, Bosch is framing himself. When Edgar shuts down that idea with a firm "Never," Robertson merely replies, "You don't know, youngblood, you don't know."
- Recap.Bosch S 3 E 05: Robertson, who is investigating the Gunn murder, talks to Edgar. He first states that he thinks Bosch is being framed. He next suggests that maybe, to put heat on someone else, Bosch is framing himself. Edgar shuts him down with "Never." Robertson says to him, "You don't know, youngblood, you don't know."
- Fanfic.Spots Off: After Adrien and Alya see Marinette's identity being reported on the morning news:
Adrien: Alya, I'm gonna go visit her. Do... do you think that would help?
Alya: I don't know Adrien, I just don't know. I don't know how to help her anymore... - Fanfic.Its Just A Light Rain But The Storms Still Comin: From Ann in Chapter 14, after Ryuji asks if she still wants to steal Akira's heart.
Ann: I don't know. I don't know if I want Yusuke to be right or not. Because if Kurusu is actually innocent… if I've been wrong all this time… then I don't know how to fix this. O-or if I just want to run away. Or I don't know what―
Ryuji: [squeezing her shoulder] We'll get there when we get there. - Film.Escape From The Planet Of The Apes: Dr. Hasslein has discovered from Zira that one day apes will become sentient, and the world will be destroyed in the year 3955, so he tells the President of the United States that, to prevent a Stable Time Loop, he should have the two Chimpanees from the future, Cornelius and Zira, killed.
President: Convince me.Dr. Hasslein: By their own testimony, we know that one day apes will acquire the power of intelligent speech. By Zira's testimony, we know she's pregnant with child. By my own testimony, we know it's possible for this child - provided, of course, that we permit its birth - to bear or beget a talking ape with a dumb one... in a present-day jungle or a present-day zoo.President: But do you believe, by deliberate present-day action, we can neutralize that possibility, that we can alter the future?Dr. Hasslein: Yes, Mr. President, I do.President: Do you also believe that we should? Given the power to alter the future, have we the right to use it?Dr. Hasslein: I don't know. I've wrestled with this, Mr. President, I just don't know.
- Funny.Wanda Vision:
- Darcy Lewis, despite now have her doctorate, is still, well, Darcy. When questioned by Hayward about Wanda's broadcast signal:
Hayward: What am I looking at? [points at Darcy] You. What is this? Where is this coming from?
Darcy: Out there.
Hayward: Is it authentic?
Darcy: I'm not sure how to answer that.
Hayward: Is it happening in real time? Is it recorded, fabricated?
Darcy: I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know.
Hayward: What do you know?
Darcy: My equipment registered an extremely high level of CMBR. That's...
Hayward: Relic radiation dating back to the Big Bang.
Darcy: Yeah. Entwined was a broadcast frequency. So I had your goons pick me up a sweet vintage TV. And when I plug this bad boy in, voilà, sound and picture.
- Darcy Lewis, despite now have her doctorate, is still, well, Darcy. When questioned by Hayward about Wanda's broadcast signal:
- StarTrekTheNextGeneration.Tropes A To I: In "The Battle".
Beverly: You had no choice.Picard: Didn't I? I don't know anymore... I just don't know.
- WesternAnimation.Jonny Quest: In "The Robot Spy," Doctor Quest is puzzled by the appearance of the title device in its hidden form.
Jonny: What is it, Dad?Dr. Quest: I don't know, Jonny, I really don't know!
- WesternAnimation.A Charlie Brown Christmas: After failing to get the cast of the play to focus, Charlie Brown is sent out to get a Christmas tree for the play. As he walks out the door with Linus, Charlie Brown says "I don't know, Linus. I just don't know."
- One-Liner, Name... One-Liner: A variant common enough to get its own trope is "I don't know, Billy... I just don't know."
- Funny.Milo Murphys Law Season 1:
- The last time they try, they finally come up an idea to help Milo.
Melissa: He's almost here!Zack: Game over, man. We're finished.Melissa: "Finished."Zack and Melissa: I have an idea!
- The last time they try, they finally come up an idea to help Milo.
- Film.Central Station: Dora and Josue are stuck in some dumpy town, flat broke and hungry after Josue left their bag with their money on the train. After Josue asks what they're going to do, Dora flips out and says "I don't know! I don't know! Your parents should never have had you!" She regrets it instantly but that doesn't stop Josue from running away.
- Creator.Arthur Hailey (3 examples)
- In Overload, Nimrod Goldman, a vice president of Golden State Power and Light (a Fictional Counterpart of the Pacific Gas & Electric Company) has evidence another executive — a former US Supreme Court Justice — lied when he said he knew nothing about electric power theft, and probably was aware (but they can't prove it) that such thefts were occurring on a ranch his family owns. The head of the utility's Property Protection Department asks him if they are going to continue trying to keep the former Justice's name out of the newspapers as being potentially involved in thefts from his own employer:
“I don’t know.” Nim sighed. “I simply don’t know. And, in any case, it won’t be my decision.”
- In In High Places, Alan Maitland is the lawyer for Henri Duval, who is a stowaway on a freighter who has no papers, and thus, no country will admit him. Maitland has been trying to find a way to allow Henri to be admitted to Canada. Dan Orliffe, a local reporter covering the story, mentions Prime Minister Howden will be arriving in town and his newspaper could arrange for Maitland to meet him. As desperate as Maitland is to get Henri admitted, he's not sure if he should.
Dan Orliffe's face had a studied earnestness. 'Everybody has an angle, but you and I would be helping each other, and Duval too. Besides, with that kind of advance publicity Howden wouldn't dare refuse.'
'I don't know, I just don't know.' - In High Places again: Brian Richardson, the manager of the Political Party the Prime Minister of Canada belongs to, has asked the Prime Minister's secretary, Millie, to marry him. She's not sure if it will work.
Unhappily she answered, 'Brian, darling, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know.'
Or do I know? She thought.
- In Overload, Nimrod Goldman, a vice president of Golden State Power and Light (a Fictional Counterpart of the Pacific Gas & Electric Company) has evidence another executive — a former US Supreme Court Justice — lied when he said he knew nothing about electric power theft, and probably was aware (but they can't prove it) that such thefts were occurring on a ranch his family owns. The head of the utility's Property Protection Department asks him if they are going to continue trying to keep the former Justice's name out of the newspapers as being potentially involved in thefts from his own employer:
- Film.The Enforcer: One of the terrorists wants to know something:
Bobby: Did Wanda deliver the [Ransom Note] tape to the cops?
Lalo: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I wasn't with her. - Fanfic.The Shoebox Project:
- Double Don't Know/One-Liner, Name... One-Liner: Hilariously combined for the school paper article on Sirius and Snape being forced to kiss under the mistletoe:
"I don't know," said Ted Tonks, a young man who bore witness to the entire spectacle. "I just don't know."
Neither do we, Ted Tonks. Neither do we. - Film.Hellfighters: Chance tells Madeline that Greg, who took over the company, is in trouble and he's going to have to go help him. He admits this was bound to happen, and if it happens again, he'll go. Chance's work putting out oil fires is what broke up their first marriage; how does she feel this will affect things?
Madeline: I don't know. I honestly don't know.
- Recap.Big Finish Doctor Who 039 Bang Bang A Boom: Under Catchphrase:
- Fassbinder has "I don't know ... I just don't know."
- Recap.Futurama S 1 E 3 I Roommate:
Amy: Do you think Calculon's evil twin will ever walk again?Hermes: I don't know, Amy. I just don't know.
- Film.The Charge Of The Light Brigade: Raglan, shocked as he sees the Light Brigade being destroyed, can only respond with this.
Raglan: I don't know. I don't know. It isn't done.
- KungFuPanda1.Tropes A To D: How Shifu responds to Po's Armor-Piercing Question of just how he intends to turn a clumsy, overweight panda into The Chosen One. It's fairly well-executed: an agitated Shifu shouts the first "I don't know", takes a moment to calm himself, then repeats it in a much more resigned tone.
- Recap.Star Trek S 2 E 24 The Ultimate Computer: Under One-Liner, Name... One-Liner:
- When Daystrom starts to realize how far out-of-control the M-5 is during the botched war game.
- Music.Stevie Wonder: Shows up in "Lately."
Far more frequently you're wearing perfume
with, you say, no special place to go,
but when I ask "Will you be coming back soon?",
you don't know, never know... - Recap.The Rat Patrol S 2 E 21 The Field Of Death Raid: When the Rats discover David lying unconscious in the field.
Moffitt: Is he alive?
Troy: I don't know. I don't know. - Recap.Warrior Cats The Darkest Hour: One occurs in this book:
- Firestar let out a long breath. "I don't know, Bramblepaw," he admitted. "I just don't know."
- Series.Suits: In the Season 8 finale, Thomas, a furniture manufacturer owner (and Donna's current love interest) has a handshake agreement to sell furniture to all of a real estate client's shopping malls. The client is going to betray Thomas' company by using them as a stalking horse to get better terms from a competing manufacturer. Donna, not knowing what has happened, sees Harvey's face and queries him. He admits what is happening but asks her to wait while he tries to arrange a replacement deal. Donna goes on her date, and Thomas tells her about how he got a really sweet deal from his current landlord, but this offer is only good until noon tomorrow. Worried he might get no deal at all, Donna tells him what's happening. He immediately takes the current offer and puts out a press release. The mall company is going to sue them for violating privilege. Louis wants to know how this happened:
Louis: Why couldn't Donna just wait for you?
Harvey: I don't know, Louis, I just don't know. - WarriorCats.Tropes 0 To G: In The Darkest Hour:
- Firestar let out a long breath. "I don't know, Bramblepaw," he admitted. "I just don't know."
Just "I don't know" twice, or unclear context of usage (3/47)
- Series.Band Of Brothers: When E Co. advances into Foy and the overwhelmed Lieutenant Dike is being asked for his orders, he yells "I don't know, I don't know, I don't know!"
- Recap.Supernatural S 02 E 21 All Hell Breaks Loose Part One: Sam's answers to Andy's questions.
Andy: Sam! What are you doing here?
Sam: I don't know.
Andy: What am I doing here?!
Sam: I don't know.
Andy: Where are we?! - Series.Family Matters: In "Whose Man Is It Anyway?", 3J asks Carl for help in finding his parents, and Carl gets ahold of his mother in short order. However, motherhood had a rough start for her; she's trying to get her life together and doesn't want 3J to know her yet. When Harriette asks Carl how they're supposed to negotiate this when 3J wants so desperately to know his mother, Carl says he just doesn't know what they're going to do.
Other misuse (1/47)
- Literature.Time For The Stars: Tom is unhappy because Pat arranged to sign the space travel contract last, making him the one who gets to go to space. Tom wonders to himself in his journal if Pat did this deliberately, and would he have done it.
ZCE (4/47)
- WebVideo.Mic The Snare: His reaction to the Glee mashup of “Turkey Lurkey Time/Let’s Have a Kiki”.
- Fanfic.Code Geass Cornelia Of The Defection: Done by Milly after Shirley asks if she's okay when Cornelia broadcasts that she's a traitor to Britannia.
- Fanfic.The Pros And Cons To Living A Triple Life: Sora's response when Morgana asks what will happen if Yoshizawa awakens to a Keyblade after her Dive to the Heart.
- Literature.Voices After Midnight: Happens a good number of times whenever Chad is trying to understand either the Time Travel aspects or what they learn and witness in the past.
N/A (11/47)
- TimeImmemorial.Tropes A To G: (comment-free index entry)
- Sandbox.Wick Check Project: (link to this wick check)
- JustForFun.Statler And Waldorf: (comment-free list entry)
- Laconic.Double Dont Know: If you really don't know, say it twice.
- IThoughtItMeant.D To F: A Double Don't Know isn't a double negative.
- (This page)
- TropesThatWillNeverHappen.X Meets Y Entries A To G: Double Dunno What's Going On, But...
- Stock Phrases: (comment-free index entry)
- Administrivia.Tropes Needing TRS:
- One-Liner, Name... One-Liner and Double Don't Know: Both of these are The Same, but More Specific to Repeated for Emphasis, the specifics being that the former includes a person's name between the repeated phrase, and the latter has "I don't know" as the repeated phrase.
- Repeat Index Index: (comment-free index entry)
- (self)
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 13th 2024 at 10:44:23 AM
the Retromancer
#2: Apr 24th 2024 at 5:46:33 AM
"Just repeating the phrase" strikes me instead as "emphasis is implied" form of ZCE, so it's not an issue with the trope itself. I support simply renaming (Saying Twice For Emphasis) and cleanup.
Edited by Amonimus on Apr 24th 2024 at 3:47:19 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Memetic Loser Mother
#3: Apr 24th 2024 at 6:52:12 AM
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to rename + cleanup
Coachpill
Can shapeshift (probably)
from Washington State, grew up on Long Island
Since: Aug, 2022
Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Can shapeshift (probably)
#4: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:06:38 AM
We already have Repeated for Emphasis, though.
Silver and gold, silver and gold
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#5: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:50:23 AM
Merge with Repeated for Emphasis. One-Liner, Name... One-Liner appears to be The Same, but More Specific to Repeated for Emphasis in addition to heavily misused.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 11:53:46 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
kundoo
Since: Sep, 2010
How sweet it is
#7: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:42:33 AM
Yeah, merging does sound like a good idea.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Memetic Loser Mother
the Retromancer
#9: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:31:25 AM
Repeated for Emphasis would need to be altered because it's specifically for a single word, but in retrospect it's an odd limitation.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Tabs
Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:39:48 AM
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Slight alteration to Repeated for Emphasis, merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner with Repeated for Emphasis.
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#11: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:44:57 AM
I agree that it's an odd limitation, so we can adjust the definition of Repeated for Emphasis to allow phrases in addition to single words if we merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner into it.
Very Spooky
#12: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:56:16 AM
Merge and adjust Repeated for Emphasis’ definition.
Captain of USS Bajor
#14: Apr 24th 2024 at 4:12:57 PM
#11 sounds like a plan.
Edited by StarSword on Apr 24th 2024 at 7:13:07 AM
Nen_desharu
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto
Since: Aug, 2020
Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#15: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:24:35 PM
It's best to merge, GastonRabbit. It's best to merge.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Apr 24th 2024 at 2:25:11 PM
Kirby is awesome.
Animu
#16: Apr 25th 2024 at 12:06:56 AM
While we are at it, why don't we merge Double Don't Know too? It has the same problem of The Same, but More Specific to Repeated for Emphasis.
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#17: Apr 25th 2024 at 4:34:41 AM
I think we could do that, because looking at the description, it does appear to be redundant.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:35:33 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
GastonRabbit
MOD
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#18: Apr 25th 2024 at 4:36:32 AM
I'm just going to go ahead and officially expand the thread's scope to include merging Double Don't Know into Repeated for Emphasis as an option alongside the existing proposal of merging One-Liner, Name... One-Liner into Repeated for Emphasis. I don't think we need a wick check because the description makes the definition clear enough already (particularly the relationship between it and Repeated for Emphasis and One-Liner, Name... One-Liner), and the wick count isn't terribly high anyway, but if anyone wants to do one anyway, go ahead.
Edit: Tagged Double Don't Know.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:48:44 AM
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Animu
#19: Apr 25th 2024 at 4:48:41 AM
Double Don't Know does have a wick check and OP by Laundrypizza 03. It's at position 75 in the TRS Queue.
Edited by animuacid on Apr 25th 2024 at 1:49:11 PM
GastonRabbit
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#20: Apr 25th 2024 at 4:49:01 AM
OK, that's good to know. We can still handle it through this thread because its wick count is low enough to not add too much to the workload.
Edit: Edited the OP to mention that this thread covers Double Don't Know, and added a link to its wick check. Let's leave Double Don't Know on the Queue for now in case we end up not taking any action through this thread, because if that happens, a dedicated thread might get a different result (similarly to what happened with Sexy Spectacles and Peek A Bangs in the past).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:54:20 AM
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Animu
#21: Apr 25th 2024 at 5:25:43 AM
The description of Double Don't Know claims to signify that "the protagonist is (dramatically) out of ideas", but Repeated for Emphasis also mentions the dramatic element. Besides, less than 28 examples of the intended usage is very poor for a 2007 trope.
Wouldn't mind if it got merged.
GastonRabbit
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#22: Apr 25th 2024 at 6:56:27 AM
It occurred to me that ~Laundry Pizza 03 should be paged to this thread due to Double Don't Know being covered in this thread, though as I previously said, Double Don't Know could still get the originally planned dedicated thread if this thread ends up not doing anything with it.
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GastonRabbit
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from Robinson, Illinois, USA
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Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#23: May 1st 2024 at 10:51:59 PM
Do we have anything to put on the crowner other than these?
- Merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner with Repeated for Emphasis, and adjust Repeated for Emphasis's definition if necessary
- Merge Double Don't Know with Repeated for Emphasis, and adjust Repeated for Emphasis's definition if necessary
Those two options wouldn't be mutually exclusive with each other.
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Animu
#24: May 2nd 2024 at 12:30:22 AM
I don't think there's anything else.
Maintenance?
#25: May 7th 2024 at 12:38:16 PM
Agreed, this sounds like the perfect solution.
Trope Repair Shop:
One Liner Name One Liner and Double Don't Know
7th May '24 11:16:16 PM
Crown Description:
According to One Liner Name One Liner's laconic, it is when a statement is repeated to add emphasis. Unfortunately, unless if there are some additional words or pauses, it's not clear that emphasis is added, so most examples come off as simply repeating what was said, raising concerns that it's not a trope. In addition, there are concerns that both it and Double Dont Know are redundant with Repeated For Emphasis. What should be done with One Liner Name One Liner and Double Dont Know? Options are not mutually exclusive.
Total posts: 31
To-do list:
According to One Liner Wick Check, the results are as follows:
Can this be saved in any way? We could rename it, but is there enough to keep, or should we just cut it?
Update: This thread was expanded to cover Double Don't Know. The following OP was written by Laundry Pizza 03:
Double Don't Know is just Repeated for Emphasis for "I don't know" (which isn't a tropeworthy StockPhrase by itself) — in other words, it's The Same, but More Specific. Suggest merge and cut.Wick check results:
One-Liner, Name... One-Liner wick check:
A wick check for One-Liner, Name... One-Liner.The issue: The trope has some tropeworthiness concerns; being a Stock Phrase is not helping.
This wick check will see if there is anything to save.
Wick count: 50/50
Edgardo: We train, Squid. We train.
Nicole: Me too, sweetie. Me too.
Cameron: Do I, Mitchell? Do I? [exits]
Mitchell: No, stop. Don't do the double question thing to prove a point. I hate it when people do that.
Cameron: [holding baby Lily around the door, speaking falsetto] Do you, Mitchell? Do you?
Mitchell: Lily! Other example is a See X
Double Don't Know wick check:
Double Don't Know is Repeated for Emphasis But For The Phrase "I Don't Know", an unnecessary distinction.Alya: I don't know Adrien, I just don't know. I don't know how to help her anymore...
Ryuji: [squeezing her shoulder] We'll get there when we get there.
Darcy: Out there.
Hayward: Is it authentic?
Darcy: I'm not sure how to answer that.
Hayward: Is it happening in real time? Is it recorded, fabricated?
Darcy: I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know.
Hayward: What do you know?
Darcy: My equipment registered an extremely high level of CMBR. That's...
Hayward: Relic radiation dating back to the Big Bang.
Darcy: Yeah. Entwined was a broadcast frequency. So I had your goons pick me up a sweet vintage TV. And when I plug this bad boy in, voilà, sound and picture.
'I don't know, I just don't know.'
Or do I know? She thought.
Lalo: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I wasn't with her.
Neither do we, Ted Tonks. Neither do we.
with, you say, no special place to go,
but when I ask "Will you be coming back soon?",
you don't know, never know...
Troy: I don't know. I don't know.
Harvey: I don't know, Louis, I just don't know.
Sam: I don't know.
Andy: What am I doing here?!
Sam: I don't know.
Andy: Where are we?!
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 13th 2024 at 10:44:23 AM
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