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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

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#26: May 26th 2019 at 10:53:42 AM

The Legion disambig sounds like a good idea.

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#27: May 30th 2019 at 7:10:51 PM

A Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) article has been created (I'll expand it later), and a trailer is out. But is the "2019" disambiguator necessary? The original Modern Warfare game was called Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, with a numeral, while the reboot has no numeral.

Edited by Albert3105 on May 30th 2019 at 10:11:14 AM

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#28: Jun 8th 2019 at 12:21:16 AM

Dunkirk will need to be added because of Dunkirk (1958)

(maybe we need a page like Hyphenated Titles that anyone can edit to add that they find)

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#29: Jun 29th 2019 at 5:14:54 PM

There is a new ""Charlies Angels'' film coming out with the same title so the old one should probably be moved

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#30: Sep 1st 2019 at 2:30:10 PM

I have found cases of fanfics sharing their names with works that are completely unrelated to them.

I'm pretty sure there are many more out there; those are just the ones I can recall on top of my head.

Edited by Lermis on Sep 1st 2019 at 12:31:28 PM

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#31: Sep 1st 2019 at 3:37:09 PM

[up]If there is an actual risk of a subpage collision, the fanfiction is disambiguated by fandom or author, while the other work's page usually doesn't move. Since apparently fanfics are less "official works" or whatever.

(I'm not saying what should happen here, just what is already happening. I'm not trying to start an argument.)

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#32: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:36:22 PM

On that note, Fanfic.Emergence (RWBY) should be disambiguated to make room for future work Series.Emergence. I'll take care of that one myself, probably tomorrow.

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#33: Mar 11th 2020 at 12:44:49 PM

Per this ATT thread, I believe Music.The Wrecking Crew Music should be moved back to Music.The Wrecking Crew while Film.The Wrecking Crew should be moved to Film.The Wrecking Crew 1968.

Fanfic.Bastard should be moved to Bastard (Harry Potter) to avoid wiki word collision.

Some pages use weird non-standard disambiguation:

Also, since these works have unique titles which are currently redirects, shouldn't they use those titles instead of adding the year?

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#34: Mar 11th 2020 at 1:55:58 PM

[up] Dissidia is a weird case, because Dissidia NT might not be the name for the 2015 game as a whole, only for the home console editions.

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#35: Mar 17th 2020 at 4:08:58 PM

How to handle Literature.Halo?

There's the Franchise.Halo, then there's the book series, with its first book, also being called Halo...

Perhaps there's enough Halos to be a Stock Title?

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#36: Mar 17th 2020 at 4:21:19 PM

[up] Make Literature.Halo redirect to Main.Halo, which will be a disambiguation page for the the game franchise and the unrelated book series.

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#37: Mar 23rd 2020 at 7:05:41 AM

I suppose it's been five years or so since I last brought this up, but would Life On Mars be better served with UK/US(/Korea) disambiguation rather than by year?

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#38: Mar 23rd 2020 at 10:17:38 PM

[up] I'm not familiar with the show, but if it's anything like The Office, where most people refer to them as the "US version" or the "UK version", it would probably be fine. Being Human is another one like that.


I was about to disambig various work pages titled "Home", but then I realized this book and this game were both released in 2012, so I can't disambig them by year.

Would by creator be acceptable? Home (Morrison) for the book and Home (Rivers) for the game.

Edited by Primis on Mar 23rd 2020 at 10:20:55 AM

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#39: Mar 24th 2020 at 2:39:46 AM

[up] Creator is the best option, it appears.

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#40: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:16:33 AM

[up] Alright, I'll work on moving those later, then.

I just found Fanfic.Home, too. How should I do that one? There's no conflict with the year, but I've seen other fanfics that are disambiguated by creator or by source material (Death Note, in this case).

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#41: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:46:54 AM

Fanfics are generally disambiguated by either source material or author's penname. (I prefer the latter, personally, as there's a much lower chance of two fanfics with the same name being by the same author than being in the same fandom. But I don't think there's any official preference.)

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#42: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:27:38 PM

[up][up] I prefer source material.

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#43: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:39:53 PM

[up]Same, but if the fic doesn't have any subpage entries, it doesn't need to be disambiguated.

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#44: Mar 24th 2020 at 5:02:51 PM

Is there any policy reason to not disambiguate it, even without subpage entries?

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#45: Mar 24th 2020 at 7:14:30 PM

[up][up] It always could have them in the future, though.

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#46: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:51:25 PM

Is there any policy reason to not disambiguate it, even without subpage entries?
That's called Loophole Abuse. You know that the wiki does not have consensus on when to disambiguate. I'm not objecting to the fact that you advocate for disambiguation, but by asking for a policy that doesn't exist, you are essentially claiming that a lack of consensus gives you freedom to bully us into a de facto policy of "work articles must be moved just because they share a name". I would like to object to circumventing consensus.
There's already a page at Literature.What If, and I've added Isaac Asimov's 1952 Short Story by the same name to Sandbox.What If. I would like advice on what disambiguations should be used; I'm thinking Literature.What If Gamebooks and Literature.What If 1952 would make a good disambiguation. ~Sideshow Jazz 19, you've done the most work on that page, what do you think?

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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#47: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:59:01 PM

Yes, that's a good idea.

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#48: Mar 24th 2020 at 10:01:02 PM

Hey guys, let's not get heated here, take it to this thread if you wanna debate the policy itself.

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#49: Mar 25th 2020 at 2:19:55 PM

Finished disambiguating the "Home" pages.

Also revamped Home, added notes to all the work pages, and also removed the notes for the various episodes of TV shows titled "Home", since those aren't likely to be confused with entirely separate works.

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#50: Mar 25th 2020 at 7:17:16 PM

I think you did a good job on the disambiguation page, although I dispute removing the episodes. Would you mind if I added them back in?

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