Making disambigs for works that share names...

As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

The List

• Film.The Lost World
  • Film.The Lost World 1998
• Series.Utopia
  • Series.Utopia 2014
• Series.Kidnapped (2006 NBC Cop Show) (20 wicks)
  • Series.Kidnapped MTV (MTV Game Show)
• Series.The Street
  • Series.The Street BBC
• VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront
  • VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront 2015
• VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront II
  • VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront II 2017
• WesternAnimation.Fantasia
  • WesternAnimation.Fantasia 2000
• WesternAnimation.Max Steel
  • WesternAnimation.Max Steel 2013

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Similar Issues

• Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

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An ATT thread here has listed several works that need disambiguation pages.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

I came here to ask about a future dismbiguation and now I feel guilty for not weighing in on anything else yet, so here's some opinions:

• Both of the comicbook pages are wrong, but good enough. That is to say ComicBook.WorkName should be the medium-specific franchise page, and ComicBook.Name (Year) or ComicBook.Name (Rebirth) should be used for each run of the comics. Youngblood, specifically, would therefore have (1991), (2008), (2012), and (2017) as separate work pages, based on the present information. Since we don't know the works well enough, ComicBook.Youngblood and ComicBook.Youngblood 2017 is fine.
• Film.The Eagle should be moved to Film.The Eagle 2011, and the disambiguation page should be at Main.Eagle so that we can direct people to The Music.Eagles.
• Film.Overboard 2018 is a remake of Film.Overboard; I'm fine with it as-is.
• Film.The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty should be moved to Film.The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty 2013 and the original page should redirect to Literature.The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty since both films are a remake of the Short Story.
• Film.Dillinger Since these are both Bioptics of the real person, the current work page should be moved to Film.Dillinger 1973 and Film.Dilinger should disambiguate all three films (Public Enemies included).
• Film.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles should be moved to Film.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990, and the original should be turned into a single-medium franchise page for all the live-action films, indexing the work pages.
• Film.The Jungle Book should be moved to Film.The Jungle Book 1994 and disambiguated.
• Film.Adrift should be moved to Film.Adrift 2006 and disambiguated.
• Film.The Wave should be moved to Film.The Wave 1981 and the film page should disambiguate between Film.The Wave 1981, Film.The Wave 2015, and Film.Die Welle.
• Film.The Maltese Falcon should be moved to Film.The Maltese Falcon 1941, and made to redirect to Literature.The Maltese Falcon since both films are an adaptation of that work.
• Film.The Lost World should be moved to Film.The Lost World 1925, and disambiguate between Film.The Lost World 1925, Film.The Lost World Jurassic Park (1997), and Film.The Lost World 1998.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

• Series.Legit 2006 TV Series — This page is a mess... most of the tropes are ZCE and it's got two points of disambiguation; Year and Medium. I don't want to take the time to watch the six episodes or I'd say that it should be moved to Series.Legit 2006 instead. Unless someone is interested in doing so, I'd rather add it to the Cut List as an incomplete stub. It only has two wicks, both indexes, and the page creator seems to edit monthly. I guess we don't need to do anything now, so maybe send them a PM and ask them to come to this thread?
• Series.Utopia — I probably would've disambiguated by country, but since the AUS work was disambiguated by year, the UK series should be moved to Series.Utopia 2013, and the disambiguation should probably include directions to the Literature.Utopia and Main.Utopia pages.
• Series.Kidnapped MTV — This show sounds interesting. Since it's a Short Runner, year would've worked fine. Still has many of the same problems as Series.Legit 2006 TV Series, but I'm interested enough to do some repair work. Series.Kidnapped gained a wick since you made the OP. Since it was also a short-runner, maybe move it to Series.Kidnapped 2006?
• Series.The Street — When we move this page, we can get it to display as The $treet (disambiguation). I think Series.The Street BBC needs some repair work, so I'm calling ~Crazy Rabbits over to join the discussion here. Hello, Crazy R, I'm Crazy S!

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Agree with all - unfortunately, my knowledge of The Street (BBC) is next to none, so I am unable to provide additional examples. Doing a disambiguation page for that page was on my to-do list a long time ago, but I never considered it to be a priority at that time.

Continuing from this ATT thread.

Main.Annihilation will be a disambiguation page for:

• Literature.Annihilation 2004, a Forgotten Realms novel.
• ComicBook.Annihilation, a Marvel Comics event.
• Literature.Annihilation 2014, a Sci-Fi Horror novel by Jeff VanderMeer.
  • Film.Annihilation 2018, the film adaptation of the VanderMeer novel.

Is that right? What about Literature.Annihilation? Make it a disambig for the two novels, or just Cut List it?

Wut?

Main disambigs are only supposed to be used if there's a trope to disambig into, IIRC.

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Main.Frozen is a disambig page for works.

I haven't seen that written as an official policy anywhere. That's why I made Main.Nightfall instead of breaking it into different mediums. I also made Literature.Nightfall a redirect to the disambiguation to preserve page inbounds. I hadn't made Film.Nightfall into a redirect because it didn't have a page before I uploaded the two similarly named works. I'm not sure if it needs to exist or not.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Strong preference is to avoid creating Main disambigs for works only. This case might be permissible since there are multiple namespaces, none of which seem more prevalent than the other....

That's basically my rule-of-thumb.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

So, we seem to be in agreement that Main.Annihilation is a worthy disambig page, right?

Also, is it alright if I recreate Literature.Annihilation 2014 as a redirect? I put it on the Cut List before I realized Annihilation (2004) existed.

What should we do with Resident Evil 2 (Remake)? The title is currently not proper because the game isn't called Resident Evil 2 Remake (unlike Final Fantasy VII Remake, which is actually titled that way by its creators), it's called Resident Evil 2.

I've sent a custom title request to put the word "remake" in parenthesis, but I'm open to other ideas.

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There's also Kingdom Hearts, which is titled with a roman numeral - which makes sense because its updated rerelease, Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 Remix, was explicitly titled with a roman numeral. Should this game remain titled under a roman numeral or changed to a "1"?

Edited by Albert3105 on Apr 5th 2019 at 7:42:26 AM

I'm mostly fine with Resident Evil 2 (Remake), I don't really see it as a problem. As for Kingdom Hearts, there's also Kingdom Hearts II and Kingdom Hearts III, so using 1 would be inconsistent.

Edited by Piterpicher on Apr 6th 2019 at 6:35:41 PM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)

Honestly, I still don't see what the big deal about just calling the page Resident Evil 2 (2019) was.

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Main.Annihilation is now a disambig page, so what should we do with Literature.Annihilation? It used to redirect to The Southern Reach Trilogy, but for now I've made it a disambig page for the two novels.

I was the one who suggested Resident Evil 2 (Remake). There's no reason to use a name different from what everyone else is already calling it. We don't need to always disambiguate by year. See also Spider-Man (PS4) instead of (2018) and, for a non-video-game medium, The Office (UK) and The Office (US) instead of (2001) and (2005).

The problem is that when italicized, the current pagename for the remake ends up as Resident Evil 2 (Remake) (the entire phrase is italicized), implying that "Remake" is part of the actual title (which it isn't).

You provided several other examples of bracket dismbiguation such as "(PS4)" and "(UK)". Why not "(remake)" in this case then?

Edited by Albert3105 on Apr 11th 2019 at 8:04:48 AM

I'd prefer Resident Evil 2 (Remake) to easily identify disambiguation. I would recommend making Literature.Annihilation redirect to Main.Annihilation, much like I had done with Literature.Nightfall.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

There is an animated The Addams Family movie soon to be released

While the movie would presumably be made at WesternAnimation.The Addams Family 2019, the page currently at WesternAnimation.The Addams Family says it covers two series (70s and the 90s versions) so the it doesn't work with the usual year based naming - should it be split for those works?

Maybe focus on Administrivia.Hyphenated Titles first.

I don't know why that Dracula book never got year-disamb, but instead hyphens...

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Ideally we would split the two series, so if you knew them well or were interested in doing the research, it would be a great help. Otherwise, I'd recommend moving the page to WesternAnimation.The Adams Family Series on 10 October, in preparation for the new film.

The work pages says they're all exceptions. I thought the project thread for that was locked due to being "complete".

Edited by crazysamaritan on Apr 12th 2019 at 8:55:10 AM

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

- Nope, the project page isn't locked, and why keep them around, when we can standardize with the year method of disambig?

But I won't do anything without agreement.

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I said the thread was locked.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

A page for The Addams Family (2019) has been started and I started a soft split on The Addams Family

I could use some help in determining which entries belong to which series, if someone higher up the food chain then me put out a request for anyone who knows the series to help that would be great too

Currently Legion is a redirect to Legion (Marvel Comics). Seems like it would better serve as a disambig page for Legion (Marvel Comics) and L.E.G.I.O.N. (DC Comics).