to the cropped images in 15 and 25.
Everybody loves the me! I’m a great athlete!Basically girl Beetlejuice and a big candle, but the skins are better than they sound.
Notice that the male characters aren't designed for sex appeal. Fine, if it's consensus, do it. My vote is for full cut of the female images.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Cutting just the female characters' images seems like a Double Standard. They certainly are designed with sex appeal only, but they should still be represented.
Everybody loves the me! I’m a great athlete!Yeah, I think you're worrying too much.
to the crops. I don't think it makes much sense to evoke Double Standard here—the female characters are obviously the sexualized ones—but I have no issue with the crops, even if they're pretty obvious. The aim here is to abide by the Content Policy, not to hide the fact that the work advertises itself on sex appeal.
back lol"they should still be represented"
There is no wiki policy stating that Characters subpages require images, nor that there be a "fair" allocation of them.
"The aim here is to abide by the Content Policy"
That's technically not true. Yes, something that violates the Content Policy should be pulled, but article images should comply with our Family Friendly guidelines, which are much more restrictive. Specifically, NSFW images are prohibited. (Ref: IP rules post)
Nobody wants to go on a Wiki Walk or click "Random Media" and see a bunch of funbags. (Well, okay, maybe some do, but that's not the point.)
Edited by Fighteer on May 4th 2024 at 1:44:09 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"to the cropped images.
Crowner's hooked.
Apart from the "cut everything" option, nothing's mutually exclusive.
We can look at captions once we have consensus on the images.
The Random Media button won't send you to a character page.
Do keep in mind that the policy is No Lewdness, No Prudeness. We don't go around censoring non-NSFW things just because you don't like them.
Edited by MurlocAggroB on May 5th 2024 at 10:18:52 AM
What were people’s thoughts about cutting the “perky demon” caption on 1.1? I didn’t get a response yesterday.
I'm broadly in favour, but let's sort the images first. No point discussing captions if (hypothetically) there's a vote to cut the image.
Alternatively, one could click on Random Media and be sent to The Turner Diaries. (Besides, Random Media can’t sent you to a character page. And what would you expect going on the character page for a VN named Funbag Fantasy?)
I’m well aware that even as we cover NSFW topics, we want to remain relatively clean to some degree. But I fail to see how cropped images of (cartoon) women with huge breasts are any more profane than some other images on here. If we pulled these images on the argument that they exist solely to provide sex appeal, we’d have to pull many, many more images across the wiki.
back lolGiven that we've moved on to a crowner, let's focus on the specific options available. This isn't a policy thread.
I'm kind of looking at this like I did when I started the character sheet for Booty Royale: Never Go Down Without a Fight!: I did my best to pick images that were clear and illustrative, but also Safe For Work, but there's only so much you can actually do with a seinen manga about sex workers. (In particular, trying to find a SFW image of Goujima Sara that still depicted her porn career was an exercise in frustration, so I used her Clark Kenting outfit instead just so we could have something in her folder.)
Similarly, in this particular case, since it's a Visual Novel there may not actually exist depictions of the characters that are more Safe For Work (VNs usually just have a few sprites per character), and I agree that it smacks of a Double Standard to allow the male characters to be depicted but not the female characters. The cropped images are a good compromise.
Edited by StarSword on May 5th 2024 at 2:34:50 PM
Compromise sounds like a good decision.
MB Pending | MB Drafts | MB DatesI will say as a bunch of these came out to less that 350px wide we might want to set the size to 200px on the wiki for all the pictures?
Also I wouldn't say all the men are not designed for sex appeal. He's a lot more subtle but Argent has a Long-Haired Pretty Boy + "come hither look" thing going on.
Edited by GracieLizzy on May 5th 2024 at 1:23:08 PM
There's superconsensus in favor of the first three options.
I can take some time to find the originals and re-crop them if they're big enough.
Ok, here we go, fresh images recropped with transparent bg:
- Aphrodia:
- Emeralia:
- Estoria:
- Gladys:
- Isis:
- Luceria:
- Nellis:
- Rosalyn:
- Roxanne:
- Serebria:
- Shamshiel:
Edited by StarSword on May 6th 2024 at 12:12:17 PM
All of them look good. Doing the males next will be straightforward.
Ok, male characters. Note I'm including some characters who don't have images yet.
- Argent:
- Bazalt:
- Cuvier:
- Felzen:
- Hagel:
- Irboyne:
- Madoise:
- Matiere:
- Motaire:
- Rubin:
- Schlamm:
- Zant:
Edited by StarSword on May 7th 2024 at 2:00:08 PM
. And please someone call the crowner.
Crown Description:
This uses the standard Image Pickin' crowner guidelines (which can be found in the 'General Notes' folder here).
to all in .
I'm just a psycho, babe! Come and go out my mind. I didn't lose it, babe! There wasn't much to find.